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I need to order new push rods for my 499, since I'm switching to T&D rockers, and need Ball/Ball pushrods now. I know Smith Brothers, Manton, and Trend are a few places, but which one is best? Don't want to wait forever for a set. Thinking 3/8" .120 wall, or similar.

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ALL GOOD, i always use smith bros, but they all good


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Re: Push Rods [Re: n20mstr] #2922022
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Yep.
They are all good


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I have used all three. My preference is Manton..


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Re: Push Rods [Re: Al_Alguire] #2922062
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I have only used Smith Brothers.

However I have used them several times and always been pleased.

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I just ordered a set from Smith Brothers. Took a week to get them.



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Re: Push Rods [Re: Al_Alguire] #2922079
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
I have used all three. My preference is Manton..

up iagree


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Re: Push Rods [Re: JERICOGTX] #2922091
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I used Manton's Stage 5 - 7/16ths pushrods in my 493" along with a custom set of T&D's spec'd by B3 Racing along with their geometry correction kit. The result is the smoothest running/rev'ing RB I've owned it 4 decades.

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Jeff i have a couple of sets of 3/8 heavy wall ball to ball pushrods for an indy / RB block combo. If interested let me know. Here is what i have

8-9.82 long
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Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
I have used all three. My preference is Manton..

up iagree
iagree Me To up
I have had issues with Smith Bros quality on their high end race pushrods, they don't make them as good as the Mantons are twocents work
Manton custom makes each set, no mass produced shelf stock and no cheap parts either twocents


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Originally Posted by gregsdart
Jeff i have a couple of sets of 3/8 heavy wall ball to ball pushrods for an indy / RB block combo. If interested let me know


I need them for my Low Deck, and flat tappet cam, but might be interested in a set for my INDY block, and -1 heads.


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Originally Posted by jbc426
I used Manto Stage 5 - 7/16ths pushrods in my 493 along with a custom set of T&D's and a B3 Racing geometry correction kit. The result is the smoothest running/reving RB I've owned it 4 decades.


Curious about the B3 Geometry correction kit? Tell me more.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by gregsdart
Jeff i have a couple of sets of 3/8 heavy wall ball to ball pushrods for an indy / RB block combo. If interested let me know


I need them for my Low Deck, and flat tappet cam, but might be interested in a set for my INDY block, and -1 heads.

Jeff i put the lengths in the post above.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by jbc426
I used Manto Stage 5 - 7/16ths pushrods in my 493 along with a custom set of T&D's and a B3 Racing geometry correction kit. The result is the smoothest running/reving RB I've owned it 4 decades.


Curious about the B3 Geometry correction kit? Tell me more.




http://b3racingengines.com/


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My last go around was with Manton and I'm very please with their service. One thing you should consider if you are building/engineering the engine is restricting oiling upstairs via the pushrods. When I mapped-out the single shaft geo on my single shaft TD system I had sleeves with the .750 hole offset +vertically with 'bush-up' to the OEM stand diameter which is .875"? ish which helped geometry. Know too that there was IIRC about .015" more lift at the valve if you used the longest acceptable pushrod.

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Smith Brothers is good to work with. They had no problem making single intake and exhaust pushrods for me as a sanity check (Gen II Hemi hyd roller setup) and I ordered the balance of the set afterwards (if length is in question).

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I've used Smith Brothers, Trend, Comp cams and they all seem like good parts. The current set we just installed in the 540 are Manley 3/8 .135 wall. Have not run it yet but they are nice looking pushrods as well.

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I've used both Manton and Smith Brothers. Both have great products and easy to deal with. It's a tossup IMO.


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I've used Trend in the past, they are nicely made. They make for many other companies as well.

An engine builder friend has been using a local company here in Oz, they use Smith Brothers parts and assemble them here. Also a nice looking push rod.

I don't think you'll go wrong with Trend, Smith or Manton to be honest. I think a lot of preference comes from the relationships people have with the company in question.


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I prefer Manton. I would suggest not using 3/8” unless space is an issue. Intake ports can be in the way, and require a thin pushrod, but I can’t think of any reason not to run 7/16” on the exhaust side.


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