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Credit scores #2894406
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Recently I had a friend pass away. The only family he had was a brother and they hated each other. The brother asked me to be the administrator of the estate which I accepted. It is a pita job but my friend would have done it for me. So I go to the bank with the paperwork and they asked for my drivers license and they were going to run a credit check on me. I told them that I thought that was odd but they said it was standard procedure. My credit score came back as 806..... shruggy


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Re: Credit scores [Re: tboomer] #2894409
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Re: Credit scores [Re: tboomer] #2894411
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It would be interesting to know the exact formulas the credit agencies use to calculate scores. Discover provides you your score every month using a link to your online statement, so I check it monthly. I’ve never missed a payment or ever am late with bills, and my score was always been very high, even showing perfect 850 several times.
Still paying all my bills in time, yet lately my score has fallen 30-35 points. I paid off my mortgage about a year and a half ago, and what was left on my HELOC balance around this time last year. Did paying off what was left of my debt hurt my rating? shruggy

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Originally Posted by Mastershake340
It would be interesting to know the exact formulas the credit agencies use to calculate scores. Discover provides you your score every month using a link to your online statement, so I check it monthly. I’ve never missed a payment or ever am late with bills, and my score was always been very high, even showing perfect 850 several times.
Still paying all my bills in time, yet lately my score has fallen 30-35 points. I paid off my mortgage about a year and a half ago, and what was left on my HELOC balance around this time last year. Did paying off what was left of my debt hurt my rating? shruggy


Similar experience here. Paying off the mortgage hurt the score, never had a HELOC. Paying the credit card balance on a revolving basis rather than let it roll a month and pay a balance also hurts the monthly score. We get ours from experian, I recall once I saw a blurb about a minor score (9 point) drop not hurting your credit rating, I don't know what to make of that.


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Re: Credit scores [Re: tboomer] #2894420
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So to keep it real, I understand the lowest score is 300?, wonder how they decided on that number, rather than 0?

How does one get that number?

Must be a secret, never heard of anyone yet to share that achievement.


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There are many things that factor in, some of which might be proprietary (or embarrassing if they let the info out). I do know that debt/income ratio is involved. Not sure if zip code has anything to do with it, but a single friend of ours lives in a bad neighborhood and her credit score is very high. Payment history, etc.

I do know that the credit agencies do not like debt-free individuals...

Re: Credit scores [Re: Jim_Lusk] #2894463
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Credit card companies call people like me who pay off their balance every month and reap rewards credits “deadbeats”! laugh2
Tell the car salesman you are dealing with that you intend to pay cash for your new ride, and their interest in making a good deal for you will instantly fall off a cliff.
Interesting world we live in where managing your money responsibly is considered a negative by so many!

Re: Credit scores [Re: Mastershake340] #2894473
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My wife and I are usually in the 8-teens to 820s.

Even if you choose to live on cash only, it doesn't hurt to maintain a good credit score in case an emergency happens and you absolutely have to borrow money. Ease of approval and low interest rate are worth the minimal effort required to maintain a good credit score.


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Re: Credit scores [Re: not_a_charger] #2894483
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I don't owe anybody anything. Everything I own is paid for. I don't even have a credit card!


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Re: Credit scores [Re: tboomer] #2894493
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Originally Posted by tboomer
I don't owe anybody anything. Everything I own is paid for. I don't even have a credit card!

That probably has earned you the 300 score jcc was asking about! smile

Re: Credit scores [Re: Mastershake340] #2894571
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If your credit score has dropped recently, you are probably paying more for your auto and home owners insurance. The world runs on debt, if you're not among those in debt, you are a bad person. Our credit score has dropped since we became debt free. I believe retirement also cost us a hit on the credit score, they don't like the fact that we are living on a fixed income either, regardless of what that fixed income might be. Gene

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Okay, my question is why they need your credit score, as administrator of the estate? And doesn’t having your credit score ran, adversely affect your score?

The credit score trolls don’t care about why something happens, just that it did. Slimy devils.


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Re: Credit scores [Re: HoosierTA] #2894631
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Originally Posted by HoosierTA
Okay, my question is why they need your credit score, as administrator of the estate? .


iagree

I probably would have told them to stuff it. I would want to honor my friend but the necessity of a credit check would have to be explained to me.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod39
Originally Posted by HoosierTA
Okay, my question is why they need your credit score, as administrator of the estate? .


iagree

I probably would have told them to stuff it. I would want to honor my friend but the necessity of a credit check would have to be explained to me.


Just did a quick google search, and came up with this. Rather than make you read thru the whole page, I'll just post what I think applies in your situation..........

If you Dad did not leave a Will, then an administrator must be appointed and if the estate is in excess of $10,000 in value, then a bond will need to be appointed. A bond is an insurance policy and the insurance company will want to make sure that if the administrator does anything wrong in administering the estate and it has to pay a claim, they have someone from whom they can collect for the payment of the claim. So good credit may be essential for getting a bond, but often times even with poor credit, if you have assets or a co-signer, a bond can be issued.

So, it looks like the score has to do with getting a bond. Lawyer Linky


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Re: Credit scores [Re: SattyNoCar] #2894643
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I'm executor of my brother's estate. No credit check on me. shruggy


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Sorry to hear about your brother Dennis. My friends estate is more than 10 grand but probably less than 20. The credit xcheck is no biggie like I said but I thought it wass odd. He did not have a will.


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Originally Posted by slantzilla
I'm executor of my brother's estate. No credit check on me. shruggy


Different state may make a difference?


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Originally Posted by Mastershake340
Credit card companies call people like me who pay off their balance every month and reap rewards credits “deadbeats”! laugh2
Tell the car salesman you are dealing with that you intend to pay cash for your new ride, and their interest in making a good deal for you will instantly fall off a cliff.
Interesting world we live in where managing your money responsibly is considered a negative by so many!

Not really, the salesperson doesn't get any money from financing but the finance guy does. Salesperson couldn't care less where the money comes from.


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Re: Credit scores [Re: slantzilla] #2894699
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Originally Posted by slantzilla
I'm executor of my brother's estate. No credit check on me. shruggy


Because you were appointed Executor in his Will.
An Executor is appointed in the Will and distributes the Estate according to the directions and wishes of the deceased outlined in the Will.

In the other cases, you can read above, there was no Will. So an Administrator is appointed and acts to distribute the Estate.
An Administrator has no Will to guide them, so is at higher risk of being challenged by unhappy heirs, family, creditors, etc... so the insurance or bond is put in place.

Fun stuff.
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Re: Credit scores [Re: Mastershake340] #2894724
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Originally Posted by Mastershake340
Credit card companies call people like me who pay off their balance every month and reap rewards credits “deadbeats”! laugh2
Tell the car salesman you are dealing with that you intend to pay cash for your new ride, and their interest in making a good deal for you will instantly fall off a cliff.
Interesting world we live in where managing your money responsibly is considered a negative by so many!


iagree

So true...

Wife and are top notch credit clean.

No mortgage for decades, no car payments since the 1980 ‘s, pay credit card off every month for a 2 % kickback, charge everything we can to increase kickback. Got approx $1700 back in rewards last year.

FICO score never breaks over 815... shruggy

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