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70 Charger what is this? part 2 #2892870
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Redoing the Charger's interior. Here is another component that I can't find on the electrical schematic- the connecting wires are green, red, black, and black. The car originally had A/C but no longer.

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50978074837/in/dateposted-public/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50977265433/in/dateposted-public/[/img]

Can anyone tell me what this is?

Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: ackpht] #2892876
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Pics didn't show.


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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: ackpht] #2892916
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Originally Posted by ackpht
Redoing the Charger's interior. Here is another component that I can't find on the electrical schematic- the connecting wires are green, red, black, and black. The car originally had A/C but no longer.

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50978074837/in/dateposted-public/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50977265433/in/dateposted-public/[/img]

Can anyone tell me what this is?




I can't see the pictures either BUT in my '70, the factory service manual wire diagrams are close but not 100% complete. My interior wiring was 100% original and unmolested when I bought the car. A couple years ago I was making some changes and use the FSM to identify and bypass some wires related to the HVAC system. I looked and looked at the main diagrams and the best that I found was a small section in the heating A/C section. Maybe the same applies here.

Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: ackpht] #2892924
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I tried posting his pics and they wouldn't show up but I can post a link to them on Flicker.
The links seem to work at least.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50978074837/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184542831@N07/50977265433/in/dateposted-public/

Looks like a relay of some sort, I googled the part number on it and there's one on ebay Mopar 2947394 Headlamp Delay Assy. Relay Headlight 1970 B Body.

https://www.ebay.com/p/1511250004

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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2892959
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The second picture is a capacitor. IIRC that plugs into the circuit board in the same slot that the ignition terminal of the instrument voltage regulator uses.


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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: 6PakBee] #2893007
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Thanks all, I should have Googled the part number. Not sure why the pics didn't show.

In addition to previous owner changes and deletions, I also am finding that the shop manual schematics do not match the car exactly. The A/C components do not appear on the main schematic. There have to be a switch and relay for the A/C clutch somewhere, or at least sockets where they used to be.

I'll take a clue from Frankenduster and check the other sections. purple

Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2893133
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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: NachoRT74] #2893159
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Interesting on the headlight delay unit. Was that part of the A01 light package on 70 Charger? Or, separate option.


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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: 70gtx440dana] #2893212
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Group code A01 does appear on the build sheet for this car (no fender tag).

The delay unit does not appear on the electrical schematic, only a connector that leads to it. I still don't know where it was mounted, though the existing lead can reach either end of the dash.

There is another module that I cannot identify. It is a silver cylinder with three leads going to it. The only label is "MADE IN USA". All the leads going to it are yellow or yellow/black, and I can't find that in the schematic.

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Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: ackpht] #2893217
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Ignition light delay timer. It was part of the A01 (or A04) group

Re: 70 Charger what is this? part 2 [Re: A990] #2893221
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Thanks. That would explain the L65 code on the build sheet.

I would think the headlight delay would be code L42, "H/LAMP TIME DELAY", but that space is blank on the build sheet. But I seem to have one anyway...

EDIT: wrong build sheet. Got the right one from the 70 Charger directory. Coded for L42. Far as I can tell the headlight delay relay hangs off the bottom of the glovebox.

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