Re: assembly lube
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/20/21 04:08 PM
02/20/21 04:08 PM
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pittsburghracer
"Little"John
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"Little"John
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Yo Bill ... last one I did was with a straight 30 weight oil with high zinc ....,
Kendall I believe... Ya that was probably 30 years ago. Lol 😂 Kendal oil changed names at least twice since then. Brad Penn and now Penn Grade. Still great oil.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
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Re: assembly lube
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#2891159
02/20/21 05:58 PM
02/20/21 05:58 PM
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IcorkSOAK
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Financed his waterbed
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Yo Bill ... last one I did was with a straight 30 weight oil with high zinc ....,
Kendall I believe... Ya that was probably 30 years ago. Lol 😂 Kendal oil changed names at least twice since then. Brad Penn and now Penn Grade. Still great oil. That Puttsylvania oil can’t be beat ! I still have HALF A CASE of oil that has followed me around the last THIRTY? years ...... Me thimks It came from my grandpa !
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Re: assembly lube
[Re: Cab_Burge]
#2891260
02/20/21 11:13 PM
02/20/21 11:13 PM
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CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
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Mr. Helpful
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I have been told by guys who build a lot of serious engines not to make the rings and lands sloppy wet as the oil creates issues, coking, etc on start up. In the old days, guys used to dunk the piston in a bucket of oil before installing it. Not good.
I use motor oil on the cylinder walls, rings, skirts, etc. Not dripping wet, just lubed. Bearings, cams, rocker gear, etc. gets GM EOS. I have some of the good old high zinc stuff that has followed me around over the years.
Pre-lube just before starting is also done.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: assembly lube
[Re: dvw]
#2891339
02/21/21 10:01 AM
02/21/21 10:01 AM
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IcorkSOAK
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How about the famous Lubriplate ? I have two cans of that that I inherited But use it sparingly NOT like some old here that use and aBuSe smilies !
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Re: assembly lube
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
#2891378
02/21/21 11:11 AM
02/21/21 11:11 AM
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madscientist
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Nothing on the rings. Ever.
Wipe the bores with a white lint free cloth and Marvels Mystery oil, ATF or even WD-40 until the cloth comes out clean. Then put NOTHING on the cylinder walls unless you are using Total Seal’s powder or paste or whatever it is.
Then you use a QUALITY assembly lube and just put a light coating on the skirts. Real light. It should just cover the skirts and that’s it.
As you assemble the short block, you will notice that the lube on the skirts will migrate all around the bores, the rings will be LIGHTLY lubricated by that and there isn’t a bunch of oil loaded behind the rings. The engine will fire quickly, won’t smoke and the rings will be 99% seated before the engine runs 5 seconds.
You can see this on the dyno. Instead of the first 10-12 pulls showing big power gains as the rings come in, the power will be relatively stable as you begin your dyno work.
I use Torco assembly lube for everything. I never use oil. There is a separate cam lube and engine assembly lube. I don’t like assembly lubes that look like grease or pastes except for flat tappets.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: assembly lube
[Re: madscientist]
#2891471
02/21/21 01:29 PM
02/21/21 01:29 PM
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CMcAllister
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Mr. Helpful
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Nothing on the rings. Ever.
Rings go on the pistons dry. But I do make the face of them wet while doing the same to the skirt just before dropping it in the hole. I just don't want anything to be dry as a popcorn fart while assembling, rotating or on start up.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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