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window seats are overrated #2891213
02/20/21 09:06 PM
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A little in-flight entertainment on a Denver to Honolulu flight today.




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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: feets] #2891215
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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2891217
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Oopsie.

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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: feets] #2891224
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Reminds me of a TACA (take a chance airlines) flight to Mexico City I was on years ago.

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: feets] #2891237
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Looks like they didn’t shut the engine down. The Emergency shut down would have closed the fuel shut off valve. The presents of fire in the hot section indicates the engine was still getting fuel. Strange shruggy

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: feets] #2891239
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Bad as the engine looks, the wing looks not too good.

I realize this is a triple 7, but what about the 737 Max with the engines cantilevered forward of the wing too?

European Airbus is looking better every day.

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: Redbird] #2891254
02/20/21 11:01 PM
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That's better than this one, which is less, uh, entertaining...

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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: Redbird] #2891255
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The people with their kids in the playground are way to nonchalant about all the metal falling from the sky. I'd have grabbed the kids and bolted for the car. Kinda reminds me of when I was at a gas station and the trash can between the pumps burst onto flames. Half a dozen folks stood there looking at it dumbfounded while they continued to pump their gas.

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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: Dabee] #2891257
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They said the failure took out the fire suppression and other systems, maybe they couldnt cut it off.

Originally Posted by Dabee
Looks like they didn’t shut the engine down. The Emergency shut down would have closed the fuel shut off valve. The presents of fire in the hot section indicates the engine was still getting fuel. Strange shruggy


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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: feets] #2891287
02/21/21 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by feets
Oopsie.




What was that they used to say BOEING stood for....oh now I remember: Bits Of Engine In Neighbor's Garden

Really glad this had a good ending up

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: A12] #2891299
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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: Dabee] #2891366
02/21/21 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dabee
Looks like they didn’t shut the engine down. The Emergency shut down would have closed the fuel shut off valve. The presents of fire in the hot section indicates the engine was still getting fuel. Strange shruggy


I suspect that is lubrication oil fed fire in the pic, not fuel.

I heard one unconfirmed report of the cause might be a drone strike/ingestion, but are there consumer drones with that altitude capability, in Denver?

Last edited by jcc; 02/21/21 10:55 AM.

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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: jcc] #2891431
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The fuel shutoff valve is usually in the wing root. Not sure where the hydraulic shutoff valve is, most likely in the same place. I don’t know how many quarts of oil that engine holds but it is over 10. The fire suppression system only tries to eliminate fire on the out side of the engine. Anything burning in the engine, including it eating itself, will not get extinguished.

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: roadrunninMark] #2891452
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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: That AMC Guy] #2891460
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Originally Posted by RamblerMan
"Daddy.... how far will this plane fly with only one engine?"

"All the way to the crash, son. Bet you we'll beat the ambulance there by a good 20 to 30 minutes...."


Reminds me of the movie U-571 when the civilian intelligence guy asks the captain how deep the submarine will go. "Oh, it'll go all the way to the bottom if we don't stop it."

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: BSharp] #2891474
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Re: window seats are overrated [Re: jcc] #2891490
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Originally Posted by jcc

I suspect that is lubrication oil fed fire in the pic, not fuel.

That would be my guess as well, looking at the front fan it did not look like the engine was running.

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: roadrunninMark] #2891511
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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
The fuel shutoff valve is usually in the wing root. Not sure where the hydraulic shutoff valve is, most likely in the same place. I don’t know how many quarts of oil that engine holds but it is over 10. The fire suppression system only tries to eliminate fire on the out side of the engine. Anything burning in the engine, including it eating itself, will not get extinguished.

Those engines have a supply and scavenge system. There's no way the oil could take the heat if it wasn't cooled, especially in the hot section bearing sumps.

Re: window seats are overrated [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2891536
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That fire is being caused by windmilling. So which is better, seizing or windmilling? The engine wobbling on the mounts isn't helping things either.

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