Is Employee pricing still available on new rams??

I am currently looking at 2021 Ram 2500 Hemi trucks . Was wondering if employee pricing is still available?

I bought a 2006 Ram 2500, diesel, automatic, in the fall or early winter of 2006. It now has 52,500 miles on it. Great shape.

Someone on here helped me with employee pricing on that truck. I hope they can help me again. I don't remember who it was. It was at least 1 house computer ago. Lost all saved info , when that computer broke. Thanks for any info, and help..

Family pricing is available to family members only. But there is a friends program as well. Here is the program outline:

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Program Numbers:
2019MY – 28HKG
2020MY – 28HLG
2021MY – 28HMG
Revision Date:
+ January 5, 2021
+ Program Period:
2019MY – 28HKG – February 14, 2018 through January 3, 2022
2020MY – 28HLG – August 21, 2019 through January 3, 2022
2021MY – 28HMG – August 4, 2020 through January 3, 2022
Program Overview:
The FCA US LLC (“Chrysler”) Employee Advantage – Friends Program is made available by FCA US LLC to encourage friends, neighbors, acquaintances, and extended family members of eligible employees, retirees and surviving spouses of FCA US LLC (formerly Chrysler Group) or a designated subsidiary/affiliate to drive new Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Fiat and Alfa Romeo vehicles.
Eligible participants (as defined in the Customer Eligibility section below) have the ability to purchase or lease a FCA US LLC eligible new and unused vehicle at the preferred price. The Preferred Price is printed on the factory invoice and is identified with “PP.”
Although not a requirement, replacement of a competitive product is strongly encouraged.
Participating Dealers:
All franchised FCA US LLC dealers who agree to abide by these Official Program Rules are eligible to participate.
Eligible Sale Types:
Retail purchase (Type 1/B)
Retail Lease (Type L/E)
Fleet type sales are NOT eligible under this program.
Model Eligibility:
2019 MY
Eligible Models: All Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge (including SRT), Ram, FIAT, Alfa Romeo vehicles
Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio models – eligible as of 9-5-2018
Pacifica Hybrid – eligible as of 1-3-2019
Grand Cherokee Trackhawk – eligible as of 1-7-2020
Ineligible Models: 500e, Challenger Demon
2020 MY
Eligible Models: Gladiator – eligible as of 8-21-2019
Eligible as of 8-23-2019:
Ram 1500 DT Quad/Crew Cab, ProMaster Van, Compass, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango, Pacifica, Pacifica Hybrid, Voyager
Eligible as of 11-1-2019:
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ProMaster City, Renegade, Fiat 124 Spider, 500L
Eligible as of 12-19-2019:
Ram 1500 DS, Ram 2500/3500 Pickup, Charger, Challenger, 500X, 300
Eligible as of 1-3-2020:
Alfa Romeo
Eligible as of 1-7-2020:
Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, Ram 3500/4500/5500 Chassis Cab
Eligible as of 2-4-2020:
Journey, Caravan
Ineligible Models: 500e, Wrangler Hybrid
2021 MY
Eligible Models: All Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge (including SRT), Ram, FIAT, Alfa Romeo vehicles
Ineligible Models: 500e, Wrangler Hybrid, Ram TRX
Eligibility Exclusions:
 Used vehicles, demo vehicles (exceeding 7,500 miles), Special Bid, DRAC and any vehicles sold to daily rental or Fleet Customers
 Vehicles sold for export from the United States. Vehicles purchased by any broker or non-franchised dealer for the purpose of resale or lease
 Replacement vehicle as a result of an arbitration award, settlement agreement, judgment, or voluntary agreement for a vehicle reacquired by FCA US LLC
 Any vehicle originally invoiced to non-domestic dealers
 Vehicles purchased or “dealer-traded” from non-franchised dealers, except new vehicles acquired from qualified conversion companies
Employee Eligibility:
The following persons are eligible to generate control numbers under this program:
 All active, regular, temporarily laid off, on-roll, U.S. - based FCA US LLC employees and any other subsidiary or affiliate company employees designated by FCA US LLC
 Retirees and surviving spouses of FCA US LLC (formerly Chrysler Group) and any other subsidiary or affiliate designated by FCA US LLC, receiving pension benefits under a FCA US LLC (formerly Chrysler Group) sponsored pension plan are eligible to participate in the Program
The following persons are ineligible for this program:
 Supplemental workers, Independent Contractors, former employees not currently receiving deferred vested pension benefits under a FCA US LLC sponsored pension plan, are not eligible to participate in this Program
 All other individuals determined to be ineligible to participate in the program at the discretion of FCA US LLC
Eligible employees or individuals who do not comply with the Rules and Provisions may be suspended from the program.
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Eligible Customers:
Friends, neighbors, acquaintances, and extended family members of eligible employees and retirees of FCA US LLC (formerly Chrysler Group) or a designated subsidiary or affiliate
Program Elements:
1. FCA US LLC has provided the ability for FCA US LLC and eligible affiliate company employees, retirees, and surviving spouses to offer the FCA US LLC (“Chrysler”) Friends program discount to their friends or neighbors.
2. Eligible individuals stated above, will have the ability to sponsor (6) friends or neighbors during the program period. Employees will be required to contact the Employee Advantage hotline at (800)756-AUTO or access the website www.ea.chrysler.com. The participant will be required to review and agree to the compliance rules of the program and generate a control number. Control numbers must be generated PRIOR to completing the sales transaction.
3. Upon receiving the program control number, the eligible employee, retiree or surviving spouse simply provides it to a friend, who in turn, provides the control number to any participating U.S. Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram dealership or FIAT Studio.
4. Participating dealer must verify and acknowledge (“agree”) that the control number, sponsor and buyer are accurate prior to processing the program incentive claim through the DealerCONNECT control number validation process. Validation is accomplished through DealerCONNECT>Sales>Incentives>Control Number Validation.
5. A completed Pricing and Acknowledgement Form must also be completed and retained by the selling dealer for each sales transaction.
Preferred Price:
The retail purchase or lease price of any vehicle under this program is called the “Preferred Price” (a maximum of 1% below factory invoice plus a $75 administration fee). The preferred price is printed on the factory invoice and is identified with “PP”. The customer has the right to see the factory invoice and verify the “PP” price.
Dealer installed options are negotiable between the participant and the dealer, and must be itemized and individually priced on a fully executed Bill of Sale, and FCA US LLC Affiliate Rewards Pricing and Acknowledgement Form signed by the Dealer and the purchaser/lessee. A net Bill of Sale without detail is not acceptable. The Dealer Price to purchaser/lessee is calculated by adding Dealer-Installed Options and/or Over Allowance on Trade amounts to the Preferred Price.
The participant may not be charged for any preparation fees, delivery and handling charges, service or overhead fees, or any other such delivery fees under this Program. Documentation fees are allowable under the respective governing State in which the vehicle is titled.
Administration Fee:
Each participant must pay a $75 program administration fee to help offset the cost necessary to support this program.
Dealer Reimbursement:
Payments under FCA US LLC (“Chrysler”) Employee Advantage Friends program will be made as part of the weekly DealerCONNECT incentive claim processing system. Incentive payments will be processed and made to dealers by EFT (Electronic Funds Transfer) or as a debit or credit against their monthly parts account. The $75 administration fee paid to the selling dealer
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by the participating customer will be deducted from the payment made to the selling dealer by FCA US LLC.
Other Conditions:
The friends, neighbors, acquaintances, and extended family members involved in the purchase or lease of a vehicle under the program are required to read, understand and acknowledge receipt of the Program Rules and Provisions before purchasing or leasing a vehicle under the program.
 A control number is assigned under the program and is only valid during the calendar year in which it is issued.
 All information provided by a program participant in connection with the purchase or lease of a new vehicle must be accurate.
 FCA US LLC reserves the right to exclude models at any time without prior notice.
 Upon delivery of the vehicle by the dealer, the customer pays the dealer or leases from any lending institution at the employee price (“PP”), as shown on the Factory Invoice, plus all applicable state and local taxes, license and title fees. ($75 administration fee is included in the preferred price “PP”.)
 Any non-factory installed equipment or services are (i) the responsibility of the customer, (ii) negotiated between customer and the dealership and (iii) must be itemized and individually priced on a fully executed Bill of Sale and the claim form signed by the customer and dealer. It is the responsibility of the customer to make sure that an itemized Bill of Sale is provided.
 Eligible participants leasing under the provisions of the program may finance their leased vehicle through qualified lenders recognized by the dealer.
 Purchased / leased vehicles can be licensed and titled in the name of the employee, retiree eligible family member or business name as allowable under state law. In the event the Employee, Retiree or eligible family member is the owner or sole proprietor of a small business, that owner‘s name may be in the NVDR field and sold as a type “B” or “E” sale under this program. Proof of business ownership must be placed in the deal jacket. The person‘s name for the PP number generated and the name of the business owner must be the same. The following paperwork must be kept in the sales jacket to validate the connection between the buyer and ownership to the business. Small Business Owner / PP customers must provide one of the following to be considered eligible:
1. Copy of government document showing business tax identification number and business name
2. Business incorporation documents
3. State, County, or municipal business license
4. Copy of government document showing nonprofit tax identification number and business name
5. Federal or State Income Tax forms showing operation as a business entity
6. Enrolled BusinessLink customer number
7. A fleet account number
8. Copy of DBA or assumed name documentation
9. States tax license
10. Workman‘s compensation/commercial general liability insurance
11. State or federal forms with Federal tax ID
12. A complete copy of the most recent original tax return form 1040 and all related schedules (including Schedule C or F) that were filed with the IRS
• Proof of insurance in the name of the lease customer or business is required.
• Financing, if any and insurance are the responsibility of the eligible person purchasing or leasing a vehicle.
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• Eligible person or business purchasing a vehicle must (i) take delivery of the purchased vehicle, and (ii) maintain title to the vehicle in the original name for a minimum of 6 months from the date of delivery.
• Person or company leasing a vehicle must do so for a minimum of 1 year.
• Additional allowances (except those paid under other FCA US LLC consumer incentive programs or available Employee Bonus Cash) free equipment, special service offers, gifts, or other premiums are not allowed.
• The customer is responsible for selecting a participating dealer. Authorized dealers are under no obligation to participate in this program.
• Employees or Retirees may not sell or receive any form of benefit/compensation for providing a control number or information needed to obtain a control number.
• Dealers are solely responsible for the complete and accurate reporting of their retail sales and claims payment.
No person, including dealership personnel and eligible company employees, may sell or barter customer 'Control Numbers’ associated with this program. Dealers understand and agree that any payment by FCA US LLC that is the result of the inaccurate reporting of vehicle sales and/or payment claims will be charged back to the dealer’s monthly account.
The dealer must review program rules with each participant, obtain his/her signature on the completed Pricing and Acknowledgement Form and provide a signed copy of the completed applicable paperwork to the participant.
Dealer Obligation:
 Dealer must show the retail customer a copy of the factory invoice.
 By participating in this program, and in consideration of allowances or fees to be paid to dealer under the program, dealer agrees to comply with all the requirements and obligations set forth in the specific program rules.
 Dealer must: (i) review the Program Rules and Provisions with the customer and provide a copy to the customer upon request, (ii) obtain the signature of the customer on the completed Employee Advantage Pricing and Acknowledgement Form, (iii) provide a signed copy of the completed Pricing and Acknowledgment Form to the customer, and (iv) verify control numbers are valid and not previously used.
 Dealer may not charge customers for any preparation fees (Road Ready), delivery or handling charges or overhead fees.
 Dealer will be permitted to collect from the purchaser a State's Retailer‘s Occupation Tax as part of the Retail Installment Contract sales tax on payments made by FCA US LLC to the dealer under the FCA US LLC (“Chrysler”) Employee Purchase Program. Dealer cannot over collect for the tax dealer must remit to the state.
 All dealership personnel are prohibited from soliciting FCA US LLC employees/retirees and its eligible affiliate companies to request Employee Purchase (EP) or Friends Program (FP) control numbers.
 Effective February 10, 2011, there will be two efficient and safe methods for generating a program control number: first, through www.ea.chrysler.com website; and secondly, by speaking directly to an Employee Advantage operator – (800) 756-2886 (M-F 8am-4:30pm EST). The automated phone system will be eliminated.
 Effective February 10, 2011, participating dealer must verify and acknowledge (“agree”) that the control number, sponsor and buyer are accurate prior to processing the program incentive claim through the DealerCONNECT control number validation process. Validation is accomplished through DealerCONNECT>Sales>Incentives>Control Number Validation.
 In keeping with the FCA US LLC Integrity Code, employees and their families cannot solicit gifts or accept other personal benefits from FCA US LLC dealers.
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 An eligible employee or retiree is prohibited from giving (or in any way providing) a control number, or information needed to obtain a control number, to a dealership for use on an ineligible person. Dealerships must not solicit or receive control numbers or information needed to obtain a control number for use on an ineligible person.
 Dealers are prohibited from generating EP or FP control numbers through FCA US LLC’s (“Chrysler”) Employee Advantage Program web site or through any other communication means.
 Dealer must validate the control number prior to claiming for reimbursement. Failure to validate the control number will prevent payment from being issued.
Dealership Penalties:
The selling dealer understands that non-compliance with the Rules and Provisions could result in recovery by charge back or otherwise from the dealership of any discounts paid to the dealer, or incurred as obligation to the dealership, by FCA US LLC under the Program, and/or termination or suspension from participation in the program.
FCA US LLC expects to impose the following schedule of penalties: First Program Violation - Dealer charge back plus Business Center meeting. Second Program Violation - Dealer charge back plus 30-day suspension from the program. Third Violation - Dealer charge back plus (90) day suspension from the program. Fourth Violation – Dealer charge back plus termination from the program. FCA US LLC reserves the right to deviate from this schedule of penalties if, in its discretion, it determines that circumstances warrant.
Employee, Retiree, Surviving Spouse Penalties:
Eligible employees, retirees and surviving spouses who do not comply with the Rules and Provisions may be suspended from the program. Employees may also be subject to disciplinary action up to and including discharge.
Program Questions or Disputes:
All questions or disputes relating to the eligibility of vehicles, payments or other elements of this program shall be disposed of at the sole discretion of FCA US LLC whose decision in such matter shall be final. If you have any questions regarding this program, contact your District Manager or Business Center Office.
FCA US LLC may, at any time, upon written notice to dealers, cancel, amend or modify this program.
Dispute Resolution Process – Binding Arbitration:
Friends program participants must follow the Vehicle Resolution Process summarized below for warranty disputes regarding a vehicle purchased or leased under the Program.
Experience has shown that most problems can be resolved by taking the following steps:
1. Attempt to resolve problems with dealership management.
2. If additional help is needed, contact FCA US LLC‘s Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-992-1997.
3. If still unable to resolve problems satisfactorily, the last stage is binding arbitration. Contact NCDS (National Center for Dispute Settlement) at 1-866-937-2461 for further information.
1. BINDING ARBITRATION
Arbitration is a process by which two (2) or more parties resolve a dispute through the use of a neutral third party. As a condition of participation in the program; employees, retirees and eligible family members agree that binding arbitration is solely and exclusively the final step for
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resolving any warranty dispute concerning vehicles purchased or leased under the Program, unless disallowed by law.
They may not bring a separate lawsuit. The potential recovery is the same as that available under relevant state and federal laws. Employees, Retirees and Eligible Family Members may hire a lawyer or retain an expert, and the arbitrator(s) have the discretion to award reasonable and customary attorney and expert witness fees.
FCA US LLC has established an independent arbitration process administered by the National Center for Dispute Settlement (NCDS) located in Dallas, Texas. Requests for arbitration will be received by NCDS, which will decide if the complaint qualifies for the process. The Vehicle Resolution Process does not review other types of disputes, such as those involving allegations of discrimination, personal injury, or property damage, and/or other product liability claims; nor is there a mandate that you submit such other types of disputes to any other dispute resolution process. NCDS reviews only vehicle disputes involving FCA US LLC‘s Limited Warranty on a FCA US LLC vehicle. If the complaint is eligible, the customer has the option to select either an oral presentation with a single dispute settler or a “documents only” review by a panel of three (3) decision-makers. If the oral presentation is selected, the customer will be contacted by the dispute settler to arrange a hearing location in the customer‘s area. If the customer selects the “documents only” review, an NCDS panel will meet in Dallas, Texas to decide the matter. In either instance, the decision will be provided to the customer and FCA US LLC in writing. The entire process will normally take no longer than 40 days.
2. CHOICE OF LAW
Transactions under this program involve interstate commerce. The Federal Arbitration Act (FAA) (9 U.S.C. § 2 et seq.) shall govern the interpretation, enforcement, and proceedings of arbitration.
The decision of the arbitrator is binding on both the customer and FCA US LLC, and not subject to appeal except as otherwise provided in the FAA. Any court with jurisdiction may enter judgment upon the award rendered by the arbitrator, and the parties agree to be bound by such award. All other substantive rights will be determined by the law of the state in which delivery of the vehicle was taken.
3. ADDITIONAL FEATURES OF BINDING ARBITRATION
A. All documents that either party intends to rely on must be exchanged 10 business days prior to the review or hearing.
B. The complainant has the right to be represented by an attorney at a hearing and may retain an expert. The arbitrator has the discretion to award reasonable and customary attorney and expert witness fees and other costs allowed by law in cases so meriting.
C. All witnesses shall be placed under oath, and subject to the penalties of perjury.
D. Either side may request that the arbitrator subpoena witnesses or evidence that are relevant to the case. The arbitrator, if he or she agrees that such witnesses or evidence are necessary for a fair hearing, will issue a subpoena according to the laws of the state where the hearing is held. The requesting party will be responsible for any expense associated with the issuance or enforcement of the subpoena.
Compatibility:
This program is compatible with the following program types, providing the vehicle meets all program eligibility requirements:
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o Automobility Program
o National or Regional Consumer Cash Allowance/APR programs
o National or Regional Lease programs
o National or Regional Consumer Lease cash programs
o National or Regional Consumer Lease Loyalty cash programs
o All other Certificate/TDM programs
This program is not compatible with the following program types:
o Dealership Employee Purchase Program
o Affiliate Rewards Program
o Employee Advantage Program
o CDI program
o USAA member Certificate
o Total Loss Direct Offer
o Sam’s Club Offer
o TruCar Private Targeted Offer
o Edmonds Targeted Offer
FCA US LLC - Employee Advantage – Friends
Program Pricing & Acknowledgement Form
THIS CONTRACT CONTAINS A BINDING ARBITRATION PROVISION WHICH MAY BE ENFORCED BY THE PARTIES
Dealer Name
Dealer Code
Delivery Date
Selling Dealer (If Applicable)
Dealer Code
Customer Initials
Factory Invoice
$
Less 1% discount from FCA US LLC - (Admin fee in Preferred Price)
$ -
Documentation Fee (if applicable)
$ +
National/Regional Consumer Rebate (if applicable)
$ -
Total Price of Purchase
$
Non-Factory Installed Options or Conversion Package – use attachment if necessary
(Price determined between Dealer and Customer – not a part of Program.)
Description
Price
$
$
Total Options
$
Over allowance on Trade (for financing purposes only)
$ -
TOTAL
$
(Excludes tax* and License)
FCA Service Contract (if applicable)
Code
$
Lease Acquisition Fee
$
Lease Total
$
The FCA US LLC (“Chrysler”) Employee Friends Program allows eligible purchasers to obtain a new vehicle at a substantial discount. I understand that, in consideration for this discount, I will not be able to bring a lawsuit for any warranty disputes relating to this vehicle. Instead, I agree to submit any and all disputes through the FCA US LLC’s Vehicle Resolution Process, which includes mandatory arbitration that is binding on both FCA US LLC and me. Before initiating this binding arbitration, I will attempt to resolve the dispute: (1) at the dealership, (2) through the Customer Assistance Center. I acknowledge that this Form evidences a transaction involving interstate commerce, and that the Federal Arbitration Act ("FAA") (9 U.S.C. sec 2 et. seq.) shall govern the interpretation and enforcement of this Agreement. I represent to FCA US LLC that before purchasing or leasing a vehicle under this Program, I received and read the Program Rules and Provisions (" Rules"), specifically including a document entitled "Vehicle Resolution Process -Binding Arbitration." I acknowledge that (1) I understand the Rules (2) I agree to be bound by them and will comply with them, and (3) any non-compliance with the Rules may result in recovery of any sales fees paid by FCA US LLC under the Program, and termination of me or the Employee from participation in the Program.
CUSTOMER:
I, the customer signing below represents to FCA US LLC that (1) the dealer has reviewed with me a copy of the Program Rules and Provisions (“Rules”); that (2) I have read and understand the Rules; (3) I will comply with the Rules; (4) I am eligible to participate in the Program.
Customer Name:
(Print Name)
(Signature)
(Date)
VIN NUMBER:
CONTROL NUMBER:
SELLING DEALERSHIP:
The selling dealership through the signature of its authorized representative below, represents to FCA US LLC that (1) it has provided a copy of the Program Rules and Provisions (“Rules”) to the Customer; (2) it has read, understood and agrees to comply with the Rules; and (3) any non-compliance with the Rules by the dealership or anyone acting on its behalf may result in (a) the recovery by charge back or otherwise of sales fees paid to the dealership, or incurred as an obligation to the dealership by FCA US LLC, and (b) the termination or suspension of the dealership from participation in the Program. *The dealer is responsible for the proper calculation of the applicable sales tax, if any, owed to the taxing authority(s) with respect to the vehicle purchased/leased under this Program. This Pricing & Acknowledgement Form is not to be used by the participating dealer in the proper calculation of the sales tax base.
AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP SIGNATURE:
DATE:

I can supply anyone with a Friends Control Number.
I get 6 to give out every year.

It make it 1% under dealers invoice and and incentives/rebates/ etc. still apply.

PM me if it will help on a deal.

The Employee Pricing is only for family members and they have to already be registered.

Sometimes they have Employee pricing for all.

Sent PM. Thanks, Paul

I'd like to also thank Rich for providing me a FFP number. Looks like it's going to save me a substantial amount of money on a new purchase. Great guy helping out fellow moparts members!

Rich got me a code too, I ordered my 2500 in late February and I just picked it up Saturday. Easy no hassle no stress transaction with the F&F pricing!
Thanks Rich!

My son is looking at a 2021 RAM 1500 at the local dealer how do we find the dealer invoice price?

Thanks,

Mike

Literally the dealer has it on a specific vehicle in their inventory.

If a Friends Control Number will help you on the pricing, message me.
It makes the pricing 1% under dealers invoice and any incentives and rebates still apply.

Thanks Rich, PM sent.

Not to sound skeptical but how do you get the dealer to show you the "invoice price". The reason I ask is that a few years back I was looking at a Durango R/T and told the dealer that I had an employee/friend pricing code and he said I didn't need it and then wrote up a quote with what he claimed was dealer invoice pricing but that price was not as low as I thought it would be....................and he never showed me anything that looked like an official dealer invoice price just figures and no rebates or incentives just a bottom line price. Wish there was a way to check by vehicle VIN.

Mike

Once you have a Control Number they should show you the invoice that shows the Friends Pricing.
Sometimes they want the number to make sure that you can actually get a control number.
As I've said before all rebates and incentives still apply.

You definitely need to look through the dealers paperwork when you're doing the actual purchasing to make sure that the are actually using the control number and getting you the appropriate pricing.

I've gotten numbers for several people on here that never show them being used by the dealer but they definitely bought a car.
It shows the VIN of the car they bought in my Friends Control Number history.

Doc Fiberglass (Eric) got one to buy his Scat Pack Charger.
Obviously he bought a car, but they never used the control number at the dealer.
The control numbers issued now are good till Jan of 2022.
They can be used at any dealer so you don't have to deal with one in particular.

Rich

If the dealer isn't showing you invoice price, find a different dealer. Mine sent me a printout (ordered car, not on the lot) showing MSRP, FFP and EP (employee price)...didn't have to ask for it. I've had this experience with the last several vehicles I've purchased

When I went to the dealer to talk about ordering my truck, and we’d worked out the configuration, once I told him I had a friends and family code, he disappeared for a bit, then came back with a printout of the MSRP, and price with the friends and family discount. Part of the F&F discount is in the form of a rebate for some reason, but whatever.
While I was doing my research and such about options and dealing with car dealers, I came across several YouTube channels by car salesmen that are educational. One is “Your Auto Advocate” which is a retired career car salesman and sales manager and his kid, and sometimes joined by a woman who was a dealer finance officer, talking about all aspects of the new and used car market and sales negotiating. They talk about getting car invoices in some of their episodes. The retired guy is a bit cranky, but funny, reminds me of the old car talk NPR show, you may find the dynamic between the dad and his son entertaining, or you may find it irritating, but regardless there is a lot of good insight and tips about car buying in their channel. The other channel is “Chevy Dude” who is a new car salesman in Louisville and he too gives a lot of good information about car dealers and dealing in car purchases too.
My last new car buying experience in 2014 was a pain in the butt at a local CDJR store, they played every game in the book on me even though I had a TruCar agreed on price on the car already, the only reason I didn’t walk out was it was end of model year with a good rebate, I wanted a manual Dart and there were only a handful left in the entire area and this dealer had most of them between their 2 stores. So I sat there and held firm for 4 hours before finally getting the car at the agreed on TruCar price. It’s been a great car so it was worth the dealer grief I endured to buy it, but still it left me intimidated about ever buying another new car.
Around here at least, it seems like most employees at dealerships are Eastern European immigrant types, like gypsies. Guys who previously would be going door to door saying they had extra material from black topping a neighbors driveway and will make you a deal to do yours, then coat your driveway with used motor oil and run off with your money. Now they’ve moved on to the car sales business!
So ask around and try to get a referral to a decent salesman, you need to shop for a dealer and salesman. I ended up going to a salesman at a dealer an hour south of me, as he was recommended to me by a fellow Chicagoland Mopar Connection member, a guy who has been a salesman for decades dating back to Koller Dodge, easy to work with, no BS. Anybody interested in buying a new CDJR in northeastern Illinois let me know I’ll give you his contact.

Rich was kind enough to give me several F&F codes.
There are times where you probably can cut a better deal without one but do to availability now is not that time.
When I picked up a 2016 SXT Charger it effectively gave me 25% off of sticker once you rolled in rebates.
Thank you for offering these here!!
Kevin

Same here Rich has given me a few as well, and as always THANK YOU!!!!

Jeff

Yup! Rich got me one for our 2014 Challenger SXT! Thanks Rich!

I am still waiting on my ordered 2021 Ram 2500 to come in. Suppose to arrive at dealer on May 10th. Thanks, for the help.

PM sent