Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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The short straight answer is yes.
They leave the assembly plant with the Monroney Label aka Window sticker attached.
If you ordered a car or it was a sales bank car, it makes no difference.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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The central purpose of the Monroney was to eliminate "free-form" dealer pricing. Applied at the factory, as it also confirmed which dealership the car was to be delivered to. I remember them always being on the lot cars, but generally removed at time of delivery if the buyer requested it. I removed mine myself, up through my last new car in 1989.
Side note: Over the years, I ordered many cars ( usually work cars), and there was nothing "special" about it. You chose model, color, and equipment. If a match or near-match was on the lot, or another dealer had one, those were quicker sales. If not, you ordered & waited for it to show up. That ordering term has been hyped & distorted over time.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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One of the main reasons for the Monroney label/window sticker was to prevent "bait and switch". If you had the window sticker with the VIN to match it to your car you knew you paid for an AM/FM radio and if it was a base AM radio or no radio at all then you knew to check your dealer invoice to make sure it was deducted or demand the radio you paid for. I own, ostensibly, one of the rarest AMC Gremlins today because of a misunderstanding over 50 years ago. After talking to the original owner, and having her relate the story of the car to me, I think it only adds to the mystique. Big Bad Green was a very rare color in 1970. I think in total of the almost 20,000 AMX's built between 1968 and 1970, less than 300 were Big Bad Green. There are TWO BBG Rebel Machines. Trust me, it's rare. How did my weenie little Gremlin wind up Big Bad Green? Well, it was a college graduation present for a young lady named Jennifer. Her parents ordered the car for her without her knowledge (which also explains why it's equipped so oddly). AM radio, natch. Bucket seats and deluxe interior. Nice and sporty. Exterior dress-up with drip rail, wheel opening and rocker stainless. Bumperettes, too! 232 / 3 speed, pretty much the hottest engine combo available in '70. Electric Wipers, Handling Package, 14" tires. The car basically has every option except for Power Steering, Power Brakes, Automatic trans and Air Conditioning. It literally has everything else. Now, the story goes when it came to color, when ordering it, Jennifer's parents made the comment that "Jenn likes Green". There were only 3 greens available. Mosport Green, which is a dark metallic. Metallic Lime which is.... akin to mopars' anal mucus gold or, for an extra $36.40.... Big Bad Green. The story that was related to me was that Jennifer's parent's didn't ask to see paint chips, they just told the salesman to pick (and I quote) "a nice, bright green". Between you and me, I think the salesman was loading this car up with all the extras because he figured he could since they weren't opting for any of the power options. So, to hit them with another $40 for the paint, probably seemed like a good idea at the time. Come delivery time, Jenn's parent's took her down to the dealership to take delivery of her new car. Her somewhat conservative parents were quite aghast at the color of the car, but Jenn being pretty hip, thought her parents did it on purpose because she LOVED the color. She owned the car for quite a long time, too! 13 years from the Summer of 1970 until sometime in 1983.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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11/30/20 12:04 AM
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This statement for the Monroney Label aka "window sticker" always made me wonder why people got so upset about reproduction "fender/data tags" and never got upset about federally mandated reproduction Monroney Labels / window stickers????
The Monroney sticker is required to be affixed to the side window or windshield of every new car sold in the United States and can only be removed by the consumer (Chapter 28, Sections 1231-1233, Title 15 of the United States Code). A fine of up to US$1,000 per vehicle for each offense is authorized if the sticker is missing, and other fees and penalties are authorized if the sticker is altered illegally (including imprisonment).[4
It was so you got exactly what you paid for and you knew EXACTLY what the vehicle had when it rolled out of the factory! I have always thought the sticker was the best evidence of what actually came on a car ! I never saw a fender tag with the prices on them ... for the op. this is a window sticker from a special order car notice the code y 14 sold car ! >>for the record... please use the term "custom ordered" in place of "special ordered" when reading this post ! this car was not ordered by the dealer and not on his lot . a form was filled out for its options and an order was placed . it took 11 weeks exactly to get this car.. I was trying to answer the op 's question of " does a custom ordered car come with a window sticker ? " the y 14 shows a sold car. not a sales bank car.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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11/30/20 12:44 AM
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........... this is a window sticker from a special order car notice the code y 14 sold car !.......... do you see "SPECIAL" anywhere? - it is simply an ordered car which was more common 50 years ago than it is today, (order car, wait 6-8 weeks, receive car) "Special Order" was for things not normal on a specific car line .... the most common is "Special Order Paint" & would include the code: "Y39" - special order.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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........... this is a window sticker from a special order car notice the code y 14 sold car !.......... do you see "SPECIAL" anywhere? - it is simply an ordered car which was more common 50 years ago than it is today, (order car, wait 6-8 weeks, receive car) "Special Order" was for things not normal on a specific car line .... the most common is "Special Order Paint" & would include the code: "Y39" - special order. ----special order --- that's a slip of my words. the op asked about custom ordered cars. I do not see the word "ORDERED " anywhere on there either...... I do see sold and I know an order form was filled out to get it exactly how it is and this car took 11 weeks from order date to delivery date !
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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Every new car I bought (except one) was ordered with the options that I wanted, and none that I didn't. Only time there was a problem was when I wanted a 87 Turbo Buick Regal and the local dealers would not order it the way I wanted it. Told them to talk to the zone rep, but they were sure I would buy a loaded up one out of their stock instead of the sleeper grandma looking one I wanted. A holes lost a 13000+ sale because of it. Couple of times selling dealer had me sign a form to allow the prep guy to take the sticker off when the car was being delivered. That was the last thing they did when I picked the cars up. Other times the sticker was still on when I drove the new car home. Windex sprayed on the back of the sticker and soak in allowed them to be removed without tearing. Always saved them, and gave them to new owner when I sold the car. Only new car I ever bought out of dealer stock was a 89 Corvette for my girl friend. It was one of a group of 30 ordered on a special deal by a dealer in New Castle Indiana. All 30 were optioned the same, on everything but the color. Bought it at nearly a 10K back of price of ordering one, so it was a no brainer.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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When I was a lot man, I became very good at removing window stickers as part of the final cleanup before delivery. I'd either leave them on the dash or put them in the glove box (I forget which, it's been 38 years). The amount of glue they used varied widely from car to car. There were some that were completely coated with it--start a corner with a razor blade and they'd peel right off, leaving no paper behind. Others were really on there and I'd have to scrape veeeerrrrryyyy carefully to get them off intact.
I think I pulled my own on the '86 Charger when I got home. When I bought the Daytona five years later, the salesman didn't want to let me leave with it still on the window--said it was a liability issue because it blocked a big chunk of the passenger window. I may have persuaded him to let me remove it myself at the dealer. Both of those still had the sticker in the glove box when I let them go.
I like the way they do it now, with the backing that only has adhesive where it touches the glass so the sticker itself comes off clean.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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I consider myself lucky to have the original Monroney label for my Duster. That label has stayed with the car since new. It cost $3,461 brand new in 1972. Thanks to 6bblgt... he decoded my "window sticker". My car was ordered by the selling dealer in TN. for dealer stock .. a few weeks before the 1972 models were officially availible to the public.
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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Thanks for all the info guys, sorry for the delay the post got "buried" and lost sight of it.
At car shows people always got a kick out of the window sticker so I ordered one for the '70 I recently purchased. I got it from Triple-A enterprises for $50 and I'm happy. I sent a copy of my build sheet and they printed it off that, interestingly enough there's another company that wanted $250 and I had to provide my original window sticker...why would I get a repo window sticker is I have an original?? Anyway in case anyone cares here's what it looks like compared to the original off my '72
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Re: If you ordered car from dealer would you get window sticker
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I don't know if they still do, or when they started doing it, but at least in the 2008/2009 era when I was in the market for a new Challenger, if a customer ordered a Chrysler product, the window sticker said "Ordered especially for John Doe" up at the top. A nice little perk for someone getting a new car, having a window sticker for your car with your name on it saying the car was built for you. I'm guessing they never did anything like that back in the '60s and '70s. I didn't get to order my Challenger and bought one in stock instead, so I didn't get my name on the sticker. But at least I got a sticker. When I bought my Dart in 2014, I went back to the service area to take possession of my new car, where the techs had been doing a quick prep of it, and no sign of the sticker and everyone just shrugged when I asked about it. I have a pdf of it I'd saved off the dealer's website but it would have been nice to have the real deal. I know some people consider repro window stickers on vintage cars to be "fake" and wrong, but I have a friend who has a '71 Challenger and displays a window sticker in the window at shows and cruises, and I have noticed how lots of spectators at these events really get a kick out of checking out the sticker and seeing the price of the car and the options when it was new! They really do add interest to a car being displayed and I don't see anything wrong about that.
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