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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: moparfan]
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02/10/21 11:30 PM
02/10/21 11:30 PM
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Highland, MI.
Sunroofcuda
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Mine might be the exceptions, have a 2017 challenger and the paint is very nice and has held up well daily driving it for all but 1 year, the panel fit is good on it too. the car is grey (forget the name) i just bought a 20 challenger (black) and the paint and panel fit is equally as good on it. I didn't look at a bunch of cars before buying either, maybe i got l lucky. Also have a 09 challenger that the paint and panel fit is nice. when we bought that car the first one we looked at the paint was bad. All 3 of these we bought new, Well, we've had 2 new Challengers: a 2012 R/T Classic, & now a 2016 PCP Scat Pack Shaker. Paint was/is great on both of these, AND the fascias match very well! The 2018-newer Rams (the NEW style) is a whole nother story though! Go check one out at a dealer if one is clean. Almost looks like they have a bumpy anti-chip coating & then painted over with the finish. They are shiny & all, just look like they were never blocked after a real bumpy primer. They are ridiculous.
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: 360view]
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02/11/21 02:21 PM
02/11/21 02:21 PM
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Virginia
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Why did the clearcoat peel off so badly on mid 1990s vehicles? Happened on my '87 Lebaron. Chrysler repainted it from the beltline up and it held up well until I let it go in '03.
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: 360view]
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02/11/21 06:56 PM
02/11/21 06:56 PM
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new berlin wisconsin
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Why did the clearcoat peel off so badly on mid 1990s vehicles?
Was it the fault somehow of the clearcoat
or of the base coat
or of prep or application? i repaired thousands of these cars. there were multiple reasons why the paint fell off. the biggest reason why is they didn't put enough paint on the cars. the thin paint allowed the UV rays from the sun to go thru the paint directly to the E coat. this broke down the chemical bond between the 2 products and caused the paint to fall off. this happened on several manufacturers cars, GM cars were the worst of the lot.
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: Mr T2U]
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02/11/21 09:44 PM
02/11/21 09:44 PM
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Wichita
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Why did the clearcoat peel off so badly on mid 1990s vehicles?
Was it the fault somehow of the clearcoat
or of the base coat
or of prep or application? i repaired thousands of these cars. there were multiple reasons why the paint fell off. the biggest reason why is they didn't put enough paint on the cars. the thin paint allowed the UV rays from the sun to go thru the paint directly to the E coat. this broke down the chemical bond between the 2 products and caused the paint to fall off. this happened on several manufacturers cars, GM cars were the worst of the lot. I recall seeing a brand new Beretta come to the little grocery store where I worked. A huge sheet of the paint had blown off the roof!
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: Neil]
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02/12/21 02:31 PM
02/12/21 02:31 PM
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Marysville Wa
moparfan
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I had a 90 chev pick up that i bought in 1991, it was white and the paint on the roof and hood starting falling off. Had it fixed and never had another issue with it the 25 years i owned it. the primer seemed to be adhered well, just the paint wasn't, only on the roof and hood too for some reason
2017 Challenger R/T Scat Pack Shaker
2021 T/A 392
1970 Challenger R/T 383,727, 3.55, (Wife's car)
1970 Challenger R/T SE 440-4, 4-speed, 4.10 Dana
1972 Dodge Demon 396 W-2,904, 4.30, 10.660 @ 125.85
2020 Hellcat redeye
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: DaveRS23]
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02/12/21 02:35 PM
02/12/21 02:35 PM
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Marysville Wa
moparfan
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I'm aware of the color contrast of the plastic versus steel. yes they are not the same color . I didn't think that had anything to do with FCA
2017 Challenger R/T Scat Pack Shaker
2021 T/A 392
1970 Challenger R/T 383,727, 3.55, (Wife's car)
1970 Challenger R/T SE 440-4, 4-speed, 4.10 Dana
1972 Dodge Demon 396 W-2,904, 4.30, 10.660 @ 125.85
2020 Hellcat redeye
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Re: Why is the paint so terrible on new FCA products?!
[Re: moparfan]
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02/12/21 07:23 PM
02/12/21 07:23 PM
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Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
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Some manufacturers have struggled with this more than others have. And sometimes it is more apparent on some years and on some models more so than others. A good match between plastic and metal can be done. But not all manufacturers seem to be able to do it. In my experience, our LX cars are among the most noticeable.
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