Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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i would think the real issue is building for 5300lbs and 3.23 gear. what are the goals? i don't think there is one correct answer for the question of manifolds. It might be difficult to believe but there's more to life than drag racing. This is a plus-sized cruiser that is the perfect candidate for silly amounts of torque. Think of the Mercedes S65 AMG. A 5.5 liter twin turbo V12 cranking out 635 hp and 720 lb/ft in a 5300 lb sedan. Why? Because they can. I'm building it because it's my car, my engine, and I want to do it. The car is so big it's a bit absurd. You just can't take it seriously. However, it cruises down the highway like nothing else. I like having a little fun with my stuff and being just a wee bit different in my builds. Anyone can build a cookie cutter car by following the same old thing everyone else has done. That's boring.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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i would think the real issue is building for 5300lbs and 3.23 gear. what are the goals? i don't think there is one correct answer for the question of manifolds. It might be difficult to believe but there's more to life than drag racing. This is a plus-sized cruiser that is the perfect candidate for silly amounts of torque. Think of the Mercedes S65 AMG. A 5.5 liter twin turbo V12 cranking out 635 hp and 720 lb/ft in a 5300 lb sedan. Why? Because they can. I'm building it because it's my car, my engine, and I want to do it. The car is so big it's a bit absurd. You just can't take it seriously. However, it cruises down the highway like nothing else. I like having a little fun with my stuff and being just a wee bit different in my builds. Anyone can build a cookie cutter car by following the same old thing everyone else has done. That's boring. i'm the kind of person that "if i can't drive it, i don't want it". driving it can mean compromises in performance sometimes and i've always been ok with that. i use a ch28 for my torquey cruiser and really like it.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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i would think the real issue is building for 5300lbs and 3.23 gear. what are the goals? i don't think there is one correct answer for the question of manifolds. It might be difficult to believe but there's more to life than drag racing. This is a plus-sized cruiser that is the perfect candidate for silly amounts of torque. Think of the Mercedes S65 AMG. A 5.5 liter twin turbo V12 cranking out 635 hp and 720 lb/ft in a 5300 lb sedan. Why? Because they can. I'm building it because it's my car, my engine, and I want to do it. The car is so big it's a bit absurd. You just can't take it seriously. However, it cruises down the highway like nothing else. I like having a little fun with my stuff and being just a wee bit different in my builds. Anyone can build a cookie cutter car by following the same old thing everyone else has done. That's boring. And when you blow by some ricers/late stang-camaro-chally gents, racing on the freeway, with 6 or more friends in the yacht its all the more satisfying.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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so i had a indy tunnel ram on my 605 cuin hemi for 3 years i had 2 1050 dominators on it tryed all kind of jetting and timing and air bleeds,,, then i got a raybarton 4500 single dominator intake and a 1250 carb and it picked up 3 tenths and 3.5 mph over the tunnel ram on the 1st pass !!!! [censored] thats my kind of luck though
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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And when you blow by some ricers/late stang-camaro-chally gents, racing on the freeway, with 6 or more friends in the yacht its all the more satisfying.
And for a short time I'll be in front of them and behind them at the same time.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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How about the mod man intake, You can run a single 4BBL, 6 pack or duel quads depending on what top you use. Modman is quite adaptable but extremely expensive. Those short runners are not likely to be of much benefit to a moderate RPM engine like most people use on the street.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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And when you blow by some ricers/late stang-camaro-chally gents, racing on the freeway, with 6 or more friends in the yacht its all the more satisfying.
And for a short time I'll be in front of them and behind them at the same time. . .
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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How about the mod man intake, You can run a single 4BBL, 6 pack or duel quads depending on what top you use. Modman is quite adaptable but extremely expensive. Those short runners are not likely to be of much benefit to a moderate RPM engine like most people use on the street. and, too much plenum volume. might make a good blower manifold.
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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The complex interior design and advantages are clearly visible. Or, it's a shoe box...
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Re: Are new intake designs needed for big engines?
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It looks like a shoebox got dropped in a vat of molten aluminum, BUT I'm most likely going to run the ModMan BECAUSE By my own mandate, my 541 MUST HAVE A 6BBL. So, I am fortunate to have bought a beautiful example of the Weiand P3690982 6bbl intake, the "old school" Super Stock intake that far too much research for any sane person has informed me makes the most power when a 6bbl is the choice of carbureation, other than a custom intake. BUT I also can't bring myself to run TF 240s on a 541 Bill Mitchell aluminum RB block So, that means Max Wedge port size and TF 270s. The Weiand can probably have material added to the cylinder head end of the runners and then hogged out to MW ports, but I don't think that the runners have enough meat to open them up to the plenum floor AND I am hooked on the look of my N96 Air Grabber hood on my 70 V-code Roadrunner So, that leaves me needing a 3x2bbl intake that will do some degree of justice for my 541 cu in Bill Mitchell aluminum block based stroker motor in my 5 speed, 4:10 geared mostly street driven Roadrunner. That leaves me with the ModMan. Indy still will CNC the ports to MW size for $100 If I switch over from my Promax modded Holley carbs to a 3x2 F&B DPI/EFI I'm sure the ModMan would work even better, but I have to start with the Holley carbs. If by some tragedy the ModMan doesn't fit with the Air Grabber, then I'm left with the factory aluminum dual plane 6bbl intake, or give up my beautiful hood, go to a "tall" 6 pack scoop, and that would make me consider a custom top for a 6bbl 440-25 setup or see what can be done with the Weiand as far as porting. I have the Innovate Motorsports DLG-1 dual wideband O2 sensor system.
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