Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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4085 Covid dead yesterday . 4085 dead yesterday, who tested + for Covid
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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01/16/21 05:04 AM
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Should I wait to get the Johnson and Johnson covid single dose shot instead of the current shot that needs to be kept super cold and requires two shots? I am hearing some reports of some of those doses being bad and made some sick. We, (the US), are in a learning curve concerning this. If you don't want to be part of that "learning curve" then postpone it. Otherwise it's running the gauntlet as I see it, as with any "new" medicine approved/administering it.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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US State Department statement that Chinese researchers inside Wuhan Lab got sick before Covid-19 Pandemic began https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/sample quote 1. Illnesses inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV): The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses. end quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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01/20/21 07:28 AM
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Single “maximal” dose of Ivermectin (400 mcg/kg of patient body weight) shows some mild benefit in small Spanish double blind, placebo controlled “gold standard” clinical trial of 24 young (age 19 to 44) patients who were 50/50 male/female. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-clinical-trial-results-ivermectin-mild.htmlsample quote The research team gave one single dose of ivermectin or placebo to 24 patients with confirmed infection and mild symptoms, within the first 72 hours after the first symptoms started. Nasal swabs and blood samples were taken at the moment of enrolment and one, two and/or three weeks after treatment. Seven days after treatments, no difference was observed in the percentage of PCR-positive patients (100% of patients were positive in both groups). However, the mean viral load in the ivermectin-treated group was lower (around 3x lower at four days and up to 18x lower at seven days post-treatment), although the difference was not statistically significant. Treated patients also showed a reduced duration of certain symptoms (of 50% for loss of smell and taste and of 30% for cough). All patients developed virus-specific IgG but, again, the mean level of antibodies in the Ivermectin treated group was lower than in the placebo group. "This could be the result of a lower viral load in these patients," explains Chaccour. The fact that there was no effect on duration of symptoms or markers associated with inflammation suggests that ivermectin may act through mechanisms that do not involve a possible anti-inflammatory effect. The authors believe it could be interfering with viral entry in the cells, as suggested by another study performed in hamsters at the Pasteur Institute. end quote Gotta wonder if it would even better if maximal doses were given every day in much older patients?
Last edited by 360view; 01/20/21 09:56 AM. Reason: added 400 mcg/kg after reading full paper
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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01/22/21 12:12 AM
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I don't understand why this condition has not gotten more traction in the discussion with COVID ventilator use. Normally General Anesthesia for surgery is only for a couple of hours, covid use it is for weeks. Seems the side effects would be much more pronounced with covid, even if its life saving. Also means to me, all the more reason to be very preventive as to contracting covid. This GA article is pre COVID 2018: "Side Effects With the short-term side effects of general anesthesia, a patient might feel groggy or confused when they first wake, particularly if they are older. Other common side effects include nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, sore throat, shivering, sleepiness and mild hoarseness. “The risk of dying during general anesthesia in a typical hospital today is exceedingly low,” said Roderic Eckenhoff, MD, the Austin Lamont Professor of Anesthesia at the University of Pennsylvania. “We’re good at the acute side effects of general anesthetics.” But anesthesiologists are now grappling with a new and previously unrecognized problem — long-term cognitive issues.“The idea though that general anesthesia and/or surgery could be associated with longer-term effects that last well beyond the period of the surgery itself is new,” Dr. Eckenhoff added. “That’s something that has developed over the last 15, 20 years and has really become a hot topic in perioperative medicine and anesthesiology.” https://medshadow.org/anesthesia-side-effects/I stumbled on this new reported side effect when doing research on my future needed back surgery late 2019 pre COVID..
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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01/22/21 03:36 PM
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This seems to be a rather valid concern, compounded by the unknown proven effects of long term GA now being seen with COVID therapy, with possible greater cognitive decline exhibited by the therapy, not COVID..
The fact this is not being discussed/addressed widely/openly as a long term side effect, and it may come back to haunt the health care system, that is already viewed with much skepticism as it currently already is.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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11 severe allergic reactions per million Pfizer Covid-19 vaccinations https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-severe-allergic-reaction-extremely-rare.htmlsample quote The study, compiled by researchers at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also found that episodes of severe allergic reaction—called anaphylaxis—typically occurred within minutes of receiving the shot and were also quickly resolved using a shot of epinephrine (such as the EpiPen). None of the episodes proved fatal, said researchers reporting Jan. 21 in the journal JAMA Insights. end quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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This seems to be a rather valid concern, compounded by the unknown proven effects of long term GA now being seen with COVID therapy, with possible greater cognitive decline exhibited by the therapy, not COVID..
The fact this is not being discussed/addressed widely/openly as a long term side effect, and it may come back to haunt the health care system, that is already viewed with much skepticism as it currently already is.
Sorry about your "aunt".
Wonder if that plays a part in this? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...id-patients-return-hospital-five-months/Almost a third of recovered Covid patients will end up back in hospital within five months and one in eight will die, alarming new figures have shown.
Research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) found there is a devastating long-term toll on survivors of severe coronavirus, with many people developing heart problems, diabetes and chronic liver and kidney conditions.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Reactions to any procedure from vaccine to major surgery should always be on the minds of doctors, patients and family . Wasn't there an article recently about 23 Nursing Home patients dying after the first vaccine shot ? They were just to frail of a condition to even take the minor reactions , their immune symptoms were simply too weak . LINK
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Full General anesthesia may have long term harmful effects on the elderly brain. After my heart surgery I have never been the same. Some things have gotten better but other things never came back to normal.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Reactions to any procedure from vaccine to major surgery should always be on the minds of doctors, patients and family . Wasn't there an article recently about 23 Nursing Home patients dying after the first vaccine shot ? They were just to frail of a condition to even take the minor reactions , their immune symptoms were simply too weak . LINK I read that “Norway Study” paper. Norway has an extremely well funded Health system from North Sea oil. Norway vaccinated its plus 70 year olds first, and gave shots to more than 30,000 in the first month. 23 died within 7 days of getting their Covid-19 vaccination, of which 13 were in nursing homes. Norway is going to do an investigation of these deaths, but officially says that roughly 1600 Norway citizens over age 70 die every month (400 per week) and that they think it is “normal” that about 23 would die by chance within a week of getting a vaccination. Norway did issue guidance that “extremely frail” elderly should not get vaccinations without an MD sign-off.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.
The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.
The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently. Yes - chills, headache, aches but goes away in a day. I got my mother her first shot last week, finding one here in NJ is very difficult, poorly set up. I dread trying to find her the second one.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.
The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently. official report from Jannsen vaccine division of Johnson and Johnson Inc. https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson...m-analysis-of-its-phase-3-ensemble-trialsample quote The safety profile was consistent with other vaccine candidates using Janssen’s AdVac® technology among more than 200,000 people to date. Overall fever rates were 9% and Grade 3 fever 0.2%. Overall serious adverse events (SAEs) reported were higher in participants who received placebo as compared to the active vaccine candidate. No anaphylaxis was observed. snip Phase 3 ENSEMBLE Study Demographics The trial, conducted in eight countries across three continents, includes a diverse and broad population including 34% (N= 14,672) of participants over age 60. The study enrolled 44% (N=19,302) of participants in the United States, 41% (N=17,905) in Central and South America (Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru) and 15% (N=6,576) in South Africa. Forty-five percent of participants are female, 55% male. Among participants globally, 59% are White/Caucasian; 45% are Hispanic and/or Latinx; 19% are Black/African American; 9% are Native American and 3% are Asian. In the United States, 74% are White/Caucasian; 15% are Hispanic and/or Latinx; 13% are Black/African American; 6% are Asian and 1% are Native American. Forty-one percent of participants in the study had comorbidities associated with an increased risk for progression to severe COVID-19 (overall 41%), obesity (28.5%), type 2 diabetes (7.3%), hypertension (10.3%), HIV (2.8%); also other immunocompromised participants were in the study. end quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Melatonin has been known for quite awhile and was originally thought to be a hormone that told the brain when to sleep. Then researchers were surprised when they found that Melatonin was inside Mitochondria, the so called “power plants” of cells where the Melatonin concentration is 900% higher than in the brain. Inside mitochondria Melatonin is apparently used as an anti-oxident. Then Japanese researchers found that after Melatonin tell the brain it is sleep time, each molecule of Melatonin splits into two chemicals, one of which is important in making long term memories. So what else can Melatonin do? Fight viruses like Covid-19 and Influenza in lung cells..... https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-melatonin-lungs-infection-coronavirus.htmlsample quote Melatonin synthesized in the lungs acts as a barrier against SARS-CoV-2, preventing expression of genes that encode proteins in cells such as resident macrophages in the nose and pulmonary alveoli, and epithelial cells lining the alveoli, all of which are entry points for the virus. The hormone, therefore, prevents infection of these cells by the virus and inhibits the immune response so that the virus remains in the respiratory tract for a few days, eventually leaving to find another host. end quote A previous post in this thread was about Cleveland Clinic findings that their patients who were taking time release Melatonin had significantly lower Covid-19 infections, and this effect was greatest in Black males.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.
The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently. Yes - chills, headache, aches but goes away in a day. I got my mother her first shot last week, finding one here in NJ is very difficult, poorly set up. I dread trying to find her the second one. I'm guessing I will receive my ordered Passon 5 spd before I get my first Covid shot.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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