This wasn’t possible, right? 440 4 speed got Dana and a 26 always I thought. No fender tag or sheet present to see anything.

My 68 parts manual shows a 22 inch 2949053 as a possibility. Most likely a low-line manual had it.

I know of a 69 b body hemi 4 speed with a22" rad support that was looked at a hi end mopar Inspector stats it very possible this car has a fender tag with 26 on it

Interesting. I hadn’t seen a gtx with this before. Has reverse light. Anything can be swapped of course. I see a booger weld on the hump underneath. I had a factory four speed that had a crappy look in that area, but it wasn’t a super solid car to begin with so I didn’t pay much attention to it. Thought it could’ve been bent and rusted over the years.

My last 68 GTX the 4 speed cut out looked like it was done by a 3 year old with a cutting torch. The welded in hump was also poorly welded. Car was original and untouched.

Look like this?

Those welds are fresh.
In person one could tell if it were original or not.

MY gut says not. And without a tag to back it up it will always be tainted as a conversion .

IMO< keep looking

The four speed cut out on my '65 Coronet looks like it was made with an axe. I used to think that back yard bob hacked the car up but over time I realized that they were just that crude at the factory. They didn't care how it looked, just "got er done".

Well if the core support is there then the stamped numbers should be there also so that would be one way to verify if it was original. I'd be surprised if 26 inch radiators were mandatory. Seemed like the factory was always trying to save money by using the smaller radiator.

This site shows it should be a 26.

[url]http://www.mymopar.com/radiatorspecs.htm[url]

I do think the welds look fresh enough to be suspect. Engine claimed to be numbers, trans is not.

ANY 1966-'72 B-BODY (or E-BODY) factory equipped with a 440 and a 4-speed manual transmission SHOULD have a 26" radiator/core support and DANA60 rear axle

exceptions exist but they are extremely RARE - they should be viewed under a microscope & the question asked WHY? and is it a real factory built example or a decades old "FIX" for any number of reasons

Wow, they sure ain't 50 year old factory welds!

No factory guys would under the car with a mig welder in 1969...
The burn rings are fresh and not underseal to dis-guise the work even?

I can just imagine the folks on the production line saying '' some numpty has ordered a 4-speed ''
'' What is up with these morons, they will hate it after a week or two''... (thats coming out)


Have you ever tried doing a hill start in San Fran with a stick car?
What plonker thought that you could use a floor 'parking brake' with a stick car...

Four speed humps were factory welded in from the top. Welds on the underside would not be original. And FWIW overhead welds take skill so if done by an unskilled welder, they will look like sh!t.

Basically yes, except your picture has fresher welds.

The 68 parts manual also shows Full size Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge with the 440 having a 2898063 radiator with the 22 inch core. So yes the GTX could have a 22 inch according to the parts manual. As said if you were a betting man the 26 should win the bet. However there is no doubt they are out there. It would be nice to have more information to back it up. The radiator may have numbers that could help prove or un-prove its originality.

Also, In 1968 the block matches the sequence number on the fender tag NOT the vin correct ?
Same goes for the body numbers stamped in the radiator support / trunk lip ?

It also shows the B body 440 having the 22 inch. So could or should can be looked at as either or. That is someones spread sheet. The factory manual shows it but makes no mention of transmission. Unless that radiator was made with the cooler and sold in either application.

umm, the bad guys in "Bullet" ?

Just as Andy F said ... Even without a fender tag or a build sheet I would check to see if the stamping on the trunk lip matches the radiator support number.

The number on my original '68 RR from Lynch Road A8R279740 on both the radiator support and he trunk lip

A = Lynch Road built
8 = model year
R = body style (Belvedere)
279740 = Shipping Order #

The location of the radiator support frame should be upside down facing the engine and stamped near the area of the upper radiator hose.

If that number matches the stamped number on the trunk lid stamped on the drivers side under the rubber weather strip then it came with a 22' radiator.

Now if the radiator support or the drivers side fender have been replace....it remains a question

Just my $.02

so much misinformation

the GTX isn't a full-size model
the 4-speed manual was NOT available in a C-body with a 440