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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: mopars4ever] #2874932
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As of 1/15/21, weeks after first release of the vaccine, at the current vaccination rate, my entire county should be vaccinated in approx 3.5 yrs, if double shots are required, it will be sooner of course if death rate increases. eyes


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4085 Covid dead yesterday .


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4085 dead yesterday, who tested + for Covid

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Originally Posted by mopars4ever
Should I wait to get the Johnson and Johnson covid single dose shot instead of the current shot that needs to be kept super cold and requires two shots? I am hearing some reports of some of those doses being bad and made some sick.


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We, (the US), are in a learning curve concerning this. If you don't want to be part of that "learning curve" then postpone it. Otherwise it's running the gauntlet as I see it, as with any "new" medicine approved/administering it.

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US State Department statement that Chinese researchers inside Wuhan Lab got sick before Covid-19 Pandemic began

https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/

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1. Illnesses inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV):

The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses.

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Single “maximal” dose of Ivermectin
(400 mcg/kg of patient body weight)
shows some mild benefit in
small Spanish double blind, placebo controlled “gold standard” clinical trial
of 24 young (age 19 to 44) patients who were 50/50 male/female.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-clinical-trial-results-ivermectin-mild.html

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The research team gave one single dose of ivermectin or placebo to 24 patients with confirmed infection and mild symptoms, within the first 72 hours after the first symptoms started. Nasal swabs and blood samples were taken at the moment of enrolment and one, two and/or three weeks after treatment.

Seven days after treatments, no difference was observed in the percentage of PCR-positive patients (100% of patients were positive in both groups). However, the mean viral load in the ivermectin-treated group was lower (around 3x lower at four days and up to 18x lower at seven days post-treatment), although the difference was not statistically significant. Treated patients also showed a reduced duration of certain symptoms (of 50% for loss of smell and taste and of 30% for cough).

All patients developed virus-specific IgG but, again, the mean level of antibodies in the Ivermectin treated group was lower than in the placebo group. "This could be the result of a lower viral load in these patients," explains Chaccour.

The fact that there was no effect on duration of symptoms or markers associated with inflammation suggests that ivermectin may act through mechanisms that do not involve a possible anti-inflammatory effect. The authors believe it could be interfering with viral entry in the cells, as suggested by another study performed in hamsters at the Pasteur Institute.

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Gotta wonder if it would even better if maximal doses were given every day in much older patients?

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2878173
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I don't understand why this condition has not gotten more traction in the discussion with COVID ventilator use. Normally General Anesthesia for surgery is only for a couple of hours, covid use it is for weeks. Seems the side effects would be much more pronounced with covid, even if its life saving. Also means to me, all the more reason to be very preventive as to contracting covid.

This GA article is pre COVID 2018:

"Side Effects
With the short-term side effects of general anesthesia, a patient might feel groggy or confused when they first wake, particularly if they are older. Other common side effects include nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, sore throat, shivering, sleepiness and mild hoarseness.

“The risk of dying during general anesthesia in a typical hospital today is exceedingly low,” said Roderic Eckenhoff, MD, the Austin Lamont Professor of Anesthesia at the University of Pennsylvania. “We’re good at the acute side effects of general anesthetics.”

But anesthesiologists are now grappling with a new and previously unrecognized problem — long-term cognitive issues.

“The idea though that general anesthesia and/or surgery could be associated with longer-term effects that last well beyond the period of the surgery itself is new,” Dr. Eckenhoff added. “That’s something that has developed over the last 15, 20 years and has really become a hot topic in perioperative medicine and anesthesiology.”


https://medshadow.org/anesthesia-side-effects/

I stumbled on this new reported side effect when doing research on my future needed back surgery late 2019 pre COVID..


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My father’s female first cousin was 12 years older and grew up in the house next to his boyhood home.
My brothers and sister and I all regarded this first cousin as our “Aunt”.

Aunt Peggy at age 100 still had remarkable memory and brainpower.
At age 100 she met my sister and brother for lunch, walked on her own from the car into the restaurant, ordered herself a Bourbon, then proceeded to ask about by name all my brother and sister’s for updates on their lives, following up with additional questions indicating she remembered what these children were doing and living at a year or two ago.

Shortly after this restaurant meeting Aunt Peggy went in to have the “Power Cell” of her heart pacemaker changed ( these energy producers are not batteries but radioactive heat electrical generators).

They decided to give Aunt Peggy General anesthesia during the power cell change out.
They “put her under” so she would not see or hear the minor surgery. It could have been done with local anesthesia like many are.

The power cell changeout went “normally”
but when Aunt Peggy “came to” her memory was impaired very noticeably and she never really got back to how she could think before.
She died at 102 this year.

Full General anesthesia may have long term harmful effects on the elderly brain.

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This seems to be a rather valid concern, compounded by the unknown proven effects of long term GA now being seen with COVID therapy, with possible greater cognitive decline exhibited by the therapy, not COVID..

The fact this is not being discussed/addressed widely/openly as a long term side effect, and it may come back to haunt the health care system, that is already viewed with much skepticism as it currently already is.

Sorry about your "aunt".



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11 severe allergic reactions per million Pfizer Covid-19 vaccinations

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-severe-allergic-reaction-extremely-rare.html

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The study, compiled by researchers at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also found that episodes of severe allergic reaction—called anaphylaxis—typically occurred within minutes of receiving the shot and were also quickly resolved using a shot of epinephrine (such as the EpiPen).

None of the episodes proved fatal, said researchers reporting Jan. 21 in the journal JAMA Insights.

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Originally Posted by jcc
This seems to be a rather valid concern, compounded by the unknown proven effects of long term GA now being seen with COVID therapy, with possible greater cognitive decline exhibited by the therapy, not COVID..

The fact this is not being discussed/addressed widely/openly as a long term side effect, and it may come back to haunt the health care system, that is already viewed with much skepticism as it currently already is.

Sorry about your "aunt".



Wonder if that plays a part in this?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...id-patients-return-hospital-five-months/

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Almost a third of recovered Covid patients will end up back in hospital within five months and one in eight will die, alarming new figures have shown.

Research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) found there is a devastating long-term toll on survivors of severe coronavirus, with many people developing heart problems, diabetes and chronic liver and kidney conditions.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2878549
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Reactions to any procedure from vaccine to major surgery should always be on the minds of doctors, patients and family .
Wasn't there an article recently about 23 Nursing Home patients dying after the first vaccine shot ?
They were just to frail of a condition to even take the minor reactions , their immune symptoms were simply too weak .

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Full General anesthesia may have long term harmful effects on the elderly brain.
After my heart surgery I have never been the same. Some things have gotten better but other things never came back to normal.

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Originally Posted by MONC
Reactions to any procedure from vaccine to major surgery should always be on the minds of doctors, patients and family .
Wasn't there an article recently about 23 Nursing Home patients dying after the first vaccine shot ?
They were just to frail of a condition to even take the minor reactions , their immune symptoms were simply too weak .

LINK


I read that “Norway Study” paper.
Norway has an extremely well funded Health system from North Sea oil.
Norway vaccinated its plus 70 year olds first, and gave shots to more than 30,000 in the first month.
23 died within 7 days of getting their Covid-19 vaccination, of which 13 were in nursing homes.

Norway is going to do an investigation of these deaths,
but officially says that roughly 1600 Norway citizens over age 70 die every month (400 per week)
and that they think it is “normal” that about 23 would die by chance within a week of getting a vaccination.
Norway did issue guidance that “extremely frail” elderly should not get vaccinations without an MD sign-off.

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novavax vaccine results promising.
Johnson and Johnson one shot vaccine trial results to be announced next week.
South Africa variant of Covid-19 may be significantly different.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/novavax-vaccine-south-africa-variant-covid-19-trial-data-uk-variant/

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Johnson and Johnson Inc. one shot vaccine 66% to 85% effective and may produce 100 Million doses by June

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-jj-dose-shot-covid-.html


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Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.

The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently.


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Originally Posted by MONC
Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.

The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently.


Yes - chills, headache, aches but goes away in a day.

I got my mother her first shot last week, finding one here in NJ is very difficult, poorly set up. I dread trying to find her the second one.


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Originally Posted by MONC
Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.

The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently.


official report from Jannsen vaccine division of Johnson and Johnson Inc.

https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson...m-analysis-of-its-phase-3-ensemble-trial

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The safety profile was consistent with other vaccine candidates using Janssen’s AdVac® technology among more than 200,000 people to date. Overall fever rates were 9% and Grade 3 fever 0.2%. Overall serious adverse events (SAEs) reported were higher in participants who received placebo as compared to the active vaccine candidate. No anaphylaxis was observed.
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Phase 3 ENSEMBLE Study Demographics

The trial, conducted in eight countries across three continents, includes a diverse and broad population including 34% (N= 14,672) of participants over age 60.

The study enrolled 44% (N=19,302) of participants in the United States, 41% (N=17,905) in Central and South America (Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Peru) and 15% (N=6,576) in South Africa.

Forty-five percent of participants are female, 55% male.

Among participants globally, 59% are White/Caucasian; 45% are Hispanic and/or Latinx; 19% are Black/African American; 9% are Native American and 3% are Asian. In the United States, 74% are White/Caucasian; 15% are Hispanic and/or Latinx; 13% are Black/African American; 6% are Asian and 1% are Native American.

Forty-one percent of participants in the study had comorbidities associated with an increased risk for progression to severe COVID-19 (overall 41%), obesity (28.5%), type 2 diabetes (7.3%), hypertension (10.3%), HIV (2.8%); also other immunocompromised participants were in the study.

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Melatonin has been known for quite awhile and was originally thought to be a hormone that told the brain when to sleep.

Then researchers were surprised when they found that Melatonin was inside Mitochondria, the so called “power plants” of cells where the Melatonin concentration is 900% higher than in the brain. Inside mitochondria Melatonin is apparently used as an anti-oxident.

Then Japanese researchers found that after Melatonin tell the brain it is sleep time, each molecule of Melatonin splits into two chemicals, one of which is important in making long term memories.

So what else can Melatonin do?

Fight viruses like Covid-19 and Influenza in lung cells.....

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-melatonin-lungs-infection-coronavirus.html

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Melatonin synthesized in the lungs acts as a barrier against SARS-CoV-2, preventing expression of genes that encode proteins in cells such as resident macrophages in the nose and pulmonary alveoli, and epithelial cells lining the alveoli, all of which are entry points for the virus. The hormone, therefore, prevents infection of these cells by the virus and inhibits the immune response so that the virus remains in the respiratory tract for a few days, eventually leaving to find another host.

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A previous post in this thread was about Cleveland Clinic findings that their patients who were taking time release Melatonin had significantly lower Covid-19 infections, and this effect was greatest in Black males.

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Originally Posted by MONC
Curious to hear the results of the 1 shot vaccine, and if short term symptoms were prominent , as what I hear happens when people are getting the second dose of current vaccine.

The more the merrier, as I hear there is a vaccine shortage currently.


Yes - chills, headache, aches but goes away in a day.

I got my mother her first shot last week, finding one here in NJ is very difficult, poorly set up. I dread trying to find her the second one.


I'm guessing I will receive my ordered Passon 5 spd before I get my first Covid shot.


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