Goody brings up a decent point. As with many posts, things can go right or left quickly getting off topic. So, let's start the discussion up here.
Pittsburgh, I dont believe I read anywhere in your posts you were bad mouthing modern stuff, just the concept of roll racing, which is fine and your opinion. Can't fault one there.
I honestly thought when the post first went up, it was going to be similar to the previous Doc street race post, glad it wasn't, but it did take a turn.
So, first I will say, if you've never been to a roll race, give it a try. You may enjoy it as much or more than a standard drag race. I took my oldest son to his first at Pocono a few months ago. It was fun, but after 4 hours he had enough ( frankly I did too after standing in 40 degree and misting weather conditions) but we both saw a lot of our favorite exotics, super, and hyper cars. And some interesting unique rides as well. They were all doing what they were built to do- go fast.
Finally, the name designated to roll racers- first off i don't give a schitt what your sexual preference or orientation is. When a bunch of adults refer to someone else like this because they have a difference of opinion, your just showing the rest of us the beginning of your own insecurities. We should be at least supporting one another in motorsports as a whole. I don t think the upcoming generation's are really going to give a crap about racing, to the point it may all but vanish in the next 20-30 years( man I hope not). The bullet isn't a site I've visited in the last 5 years, its pretty much become a huge porn/schitt talking show with some tech tossed in for measure. If thats anyone's thing, fine.
So, anyone who's done both, post up your thoughts. What do you prefer? What would you change?
One change I would suggest is do it on the racetrack. These cars are crazy fast now and as soon as poop hits the fan and someone innocent is hurt or killed they were “drag racing” to the newscasts.
One change I would suggest is do it on the racetrack. These cars are crazy fast now and as soon as poop hits the fan and someone innocent is hurt or killed they were “drag racing” to the newscasts.
Not sure if some wires got crossed, but roll racing is conducted at race tracks. Talking about legitimate roll race events, not street racing.
"Roll racing?" Somebody is making-up a new term & there is no reason for it, other than someone trying to stake claim they invented something new. WHO CARES?
Back in the summer of 1976 with my first car - a 70 Cuda, I was street racing many times. When you ran somebody from a roll - it was called simply what it was - "we ran from a 30-roll." What else needs to be said? Does someone have bragging rights to a new terminology?
Also: "drifting." Once again, I never heard this term until probably the 90's. Again, WHO CARES?
So please share the basics, I guess I get it's hybrid drag racing started from a roll, but who decides the speed, is there a starting line, who decides if both cars are lined up properly, where is the finish line, it can be done anywhere(?), and what problem or attribute does it solve or highlight, to start the discussion?
All the other personal preferences, slights, etc, I'll use my time honored response, "I don't care".
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
One change I would suggest is do it on the racetrack. These cars are crazy fast now and as soon as poop hits the fan and someone innocent is hurt or killed they were “drag racing” to the newscasts.
Not sure if some wires got crossed, but roll racing is conducted at race tracks. Talking about legitimate roll race events, not street racing.
Roll racing is done on the street everyday. Where have you been. Lol 😂
One change I would suggest is do it on the racetrack. These cars are crazy fast now and as soon as poop hits the fan and someone innocent is hurt or killed they were “drag racing” to the newscasts.
Not sure if some wires got crossed, but roll racing is conducted at race tracks. Talking about legitimate roll race events, not street racing.
Roll racing is done on the street everyday. Where have you been. Lol 😂
just go observe any traffic light, especially at rush hour. someone moves first, the other guy leaves and gets along side, then the "roll" begins.
I can't say that it interests me in the least except when an impromptu challenge happens on the street. My last one was with a C7 Z06 'Vette...
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
"roll races" on the street for the most part (for me) "back in the day" were only realized in about 10 feet after the traffic light went green. If you were going to race on the green light that was usually set up with glances and nods while the traffic light was red and you knew both of you were going to go on the green light. If not then you rolled away from the stop on green and if the other car maintained the same roll out speed then you knew this was a race from that roll out speed. If one or the other just sat or delayed when the traffic light turned green then they didn't want to race or chance getting busted for street racing or exceeding the posted speed limit. The very first street race I did with my '69 Road Runner in the spring of 1969 was with a co-worker and his 396 Chevelle on the way to night shift work about 10:45 pm. I had only had the RR for a few days and caught him just before we were turning onto a four lane bridge over the Mon river from McK to Dravosburg. I pulled up to him in the left lane, he surprisingly looked over at me not knowing up to that point I just bought the RR and I hear and see him downshift and the race was on. Why we did that I'll never know because we both knew the borough on the other side of the bridge was a notorious 35 mph speed limit heavily enforced and most times speed trap. I beat him by a car and a half with the help of the 3.91 rear and 727 and of course we both got pulled over at the top of the hill about a mile from the bridge as we pulled away from the traffic light that we stopped for behind a nice Camaro. He let the Camaro go and told us had we not stopped he knew the Chevelle from seeing it going to work and would have gotten us sooner or later. He said he clocked us at over 85 mph when we went through the lines they had on the road but wrote both of up for 45 in a 35. Paid the $50 fine the very next morning when I got off work. No that was a roll race and all without any setup. Roll races just happen......most of the time
Mike
A few month later I had Hooker headers and a few engine mods and the same cop got me to race his buddy's RR and that's another street race story.....but from a dead stop and not on the bridge.
One change I would suggest is do it on the racetrack. These cars are crazy fast now and as soon as poop hits the fan and someone innocent is hurt or killed they were “drag racing” to the newscasts.
Not sure if some wires got crossed, but roll racing is conducted at race tracks. Talking about legitimate roll race events, not street racing.
Roll racing is done on the street everyday. Where have you been. Lol 😂
just go observe any traffic light, especially at rush hour. someone moves first, the other guy leaves and gets along side, then the "roll" begins.
I was writing my above post when you posted yours and that is spot on
Mike
Re: Roll racing
[Re: GY3]
#2871123 01/08/2102:05 PM01/08/2102:05 PM
Flooring a car at 30mph or 40mph or whatever takes the driver out of the equation as well as car prep. The driver doesn't have to know anything about the car or how to drive. Just floor it at the appropriate time and see what happens.
Today's muscle cars don't have nearly enough traction to use all their power at launch, but then neither did our cars 50 years ago. Getting the car off the line was a HUGE part of the race. Of course, that took practice and skill.
Like so many other things today, no knowledge, no skill, no experience necessary. Just a payment book.
Back when I did races from a roll a long time ago I guess it was like a wild west gun draw. Both cars even going whatever speed and whoever nailed it first well that signaled go time. It doesn't matter if it wasn't at a strip from a dead stop. Bragging rights are bragging rights. Not to mention it was fun!!
Back when I did races from a roll a long time ago I guess it was like a wild west gun draw. Both cars even going whatever speed and whoever nailed it first well that signaled go time. It doesn't matter if it wasn't at a strip from a dead stop. Bragging rights are bragging rights. Not to mention it was fun!!
Yep....whoever pulls the trigger first usually won! LOL
Flooring a car at 30mph or 40mph or whatever takes the driver out of the equation as well as car prep. The driver doesn't have to know anything about the car or how to drive. Just floor it at the appropriate time and see what happens.
Today's muscle cars don't have nearly enough traction to use all their power at launch, but then neither did our cars 50 years ago. Getting the car off the line was a HUGE part of the race. Of course, that took practice and skill.
Like so many other things today, no knowledge, no skill, no experience necessary. Just a payment book.
Roll racing is for Pu$$ies.
I suggest you watch some serious cars go at it and rethink your position.
There are plenty of 1500+ hp cars with major traction issues at 60+ mph hits. It's not unheard of to have 2000+ hp E85 street cars on 26" tall radials going at it from 60-180 mph. You need to be on your toes when you're painting the street at 100+ mph.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
Flooring a car at 30mph or 40mph or whatever takes the driver out of the equation as well as car prep. The driver doesn't have to know anything about the car or how to drive. Just floor it at the appropriate time and see what happens.
Today's muscle cars don't have nearly enough traction to use all their power at launch, but then neither did our cars 50 years ago. Getting the car off the line was a HUGE part of the race. Of course, that took practice and skill.
Like so many other things today, no knowledge, no skill, no experience necessary. Just a payment book.
Roll racing is for Pu$$ies.
Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea or experience in the matter. If you had in your possession a street legal 700+ whp vehicle, you would not speak this way. Go to a true, sanctioned roll race and spectate, or just watch one online? Guys and gals, we are not talking about street racing.
Re: Roll racing
[Re: jcc]
#2871214 01/08/2104:45 PM01/08/2104:45 PM
So please share the basics, I guess I get it's hybrid drag racing started from a roll, but who decides the speed, is there a starting line, who decides if both cars are lined up properly, where is the finish line, it can be done anywhere(?), and what problem or attribute does it solve or highlight, to start the discussion?
All the other personal preferences, slights, etc, I'll use my time honored response, "I don't care".
Ok, this is a reasonable request here. The basics: from what I've seen, there's a little more timing equipment and personnel used to monitor racers and honesty. Races are usually started at 55 or 60 mph and once a predetermined point is crossed, racers do their thing. The advantages, I've been told, are this type of racing is much easier on the car and components themselves than a dig race off the line .
These races are usually held at runways or oval race tracks. There is tech and safety inspections and drivers meetings Just like any form of racing, you have to set your car up for it.
I think we are talking about two different things. On a track roll racing may be kinda cool. On a public road roll racing is not only dangerous it’s kinda lets say colorful. 700-1000 and probably higher than that is manageable if you know how to manage it. They make the perfect equipment to do this.
I think we are talking about two different things. On a track roll racing may be kinda cool. On a public road roll racing is not only dangerous it’s kinda lets say colorful. 700-1000 and probably higher than that is manageable if you know how to manage it. They make the perfect equipment to do this.
Now your on board with my post! This is exactly what I'm talking about. I wish some people would read the post and then respond instead of just the thread title and post. I dont condone street racing, and I am guilty of doing so before.
I do occasionally enjoy a "spirited drive" but I don't go cruising and looking for "victims" anymore. I've got to much im greatful for to lose it all in an instant. These sanctioned roll races expose the populace to cars generally relegated to the likes of youtube fantasies and the like. While I am and ALWAYS will be a mopar dude, I just love cars. And speed. I respect the builds, and anyone who's worked their asses off to build something either does too or they should regardless of make or model. Nobody shows up to these races with show queens with no guts. You'll get laughed right off the property and ridiculed for weeks online if you don't come "packin' ". We witnessed a twin hairdryer Lambo crush the 200mph barrier at the last event we attended. I dare you to call this dude a " pu$$y or a queer" to his face. You won't. If you do, you'll wake up in a hospital bed.
Once again, if you have no experience with this type of racing just quietly continue reading.
This is in Trona Ca.....you will see all types of cars! It is lots of fun to watch and participate in My brothers 2007 Corvette hit 164 mph. He wants to do a rolling mile course next.
It's not my cup of tea, however, I can see the appeal if yours standing at the top end and you're watching exotic cars go at it. Those cars are geared for MPH, and you'd never experience that in 1320'. If they aren't super or hypercars, it feels like overcomplicated drag racing.
Flooring a car at 30mph or 40mph or whatever takes the driver out of the equation as well as car prep. The driver doesn't have to know anything about the car or how to drive. Just floor it at the appropriate time and see what happens.
Today's muscle cars don't have nearly enough traction to use all their power at launch, but then neither did our cars 50 years ago. Getting the car off the line was a HUGE part of the race. Of course, that took practice and skill.
Like so many other things today, no knowledge, no skill, no experience necessary. Just a payment book.
Roll racing is for Pu$$ies.
Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea or experience in the matter. If you had in your possession a street legal 700+ whp vehicle, you would not speak this way. Go to a true, sanctioned roll race and spectate, or just watch one online? Guys and gals, we are not talking about street racing.
Well, you are totally wrong about me, my car and my experiences. But you are right that I had street racing in mind and have never seen cars on the track that race from a roll. Didn't even know that there were tracks that were long enough for that kind of stuff. Your position seems to be that it takes as much skill to keep a car on the track at many MPH with the tires spinning than it does to launch one. I just don't get that at all. You make it sound too much like drifting in a straight line. Loosing the hole shot is loosing too much of the important stuff for me. Real drag racers have to negotiate the hole shot and maybe fight to keep the car on the track, too. So, roll racing is drag racing with less skill sets.
I do see where there is an audience for roll racing because the vast majority of new muscle car owners cannot drive what they have. They have to roll race. So they like to see real drivers do it, too. It sorta verifies their incompetence. I'll leave it like this; roll racing is not drag racing. It is an acceleration contest, but not drag racing. If you agree with that, fine. If not, well then just keep on rolling.
Post deleted; only applied to half the discussion, and the wrong half at that. Sorry to interfere.
Aw crap I guess I need to delete my fond memory of my youth and the "roll on" bridge drag race in my then new Road Runner and on top of it I beat that mod'd 396 Chevelle with a Mopar 383 ...........btw isn't this "roll on" how boat drag racing is done?
Sounds like fun if you have an exotic or a car set up for timing events like Ohio Mile. A standard drag race wouldn't showcase what they have. Reminds me of my buddy's uncle looking to buy a Ferrari. When he was talking to the salesman about power and handling the salesman told him the car really comes into it's own over 200 mph. He ended up buying a new Viper mainly because where the hell around here can you go 200? So who cares?
Re: Roll racing
[Re: feets]
#2871486 01/09/2109:01 AM01/09/2109:01 AM
I suggest you watch some serious cars go at it and rethink your position.
There are plenty of 1500+ hp cars with major traction issues at 60+ mph hits. It's not unheard of to have 2000+ hp E85 street cars on 26" tall radials going at it from 60-180 mph. You need to be on your toes when you're painting the street at 100+ mph.
Trying to apply logic again, I see. Get outta here with that nonsense!
Flooring a car at 30mph or 40mph or whatever takes the driver out of the equation as well as car prep. The driver doesn't have to know anything about the car or how to drive. Just floor it at the appropriate time and see what happens.
Today's muscle cars don't have nearly enough traction to use all their power at launch, but then neither did our cars 50 years ago. Getting the car off the line was a HUGE part of the race. Of course, that took practice and skill.
Like so many other things today, no knowledge, no skill, no experience necessary. Just a payment book.
Roll racing is for Pu$$ies.
Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea or experience in the matter. If you had in your possession a street legal 700+ whp vehicle, you would not speak this way. Go to a true, sanctioned roll race and spectate, or just watch one online? Guys and gals, we are not talking about street racing.
Well, you are totally wrong about me, my car and my experiences. But you are right that I had street racing in mind and have never seen cars on the track that race from a roll. Didn't even know that there were tracks that were long enough for that kind of stuff. Your position seems to be that it takes as much skill to keep a car on the track at many MPH with the tires spinning than it does to launch one. I just don't get that at all. You make it sound too much like drifting in a straight line. Loosing the hole shot is loosing too much of the important stuff for me. Real drag racers have to negotiate the hole shot and maybe fight to keep the car on the track, too. So, roll racing is drag racing with less skill sets.
I do see where there is an audience for roll racing because the vast majority of new muscle car owners cannot drive what they have. They have to roll race. So they like to see real drivers do it, too. It sorta verifies their incompetence. I'll leave it like this; roll racing is not drag racing. It is an acceleration contest, but not drag racing. If you agree with that, fine. If not, well then just keep on rolling.
Ok. Well, if I'm reading again correctly what you posted, its more of the same stuff as before. Do you by chance remember earlier in the conversation where I mentioned my friends ctsv? I posted his 1/4 mile time as well. He attended and participated in regular drag racing. After he dropped around $15 grand on a trans setup to handle his power output, he started to look at other ways to enjoy his progress legally. Most all of these owners regularly participate in regular type drag racing, and then set the car up for roll racing.
As long as we agree that this roll racing is not drag racing and takes less skill, there is nothing to disagree about.
Dave, on this matter and everything you've said pertaining to it, no. I'm not going to agree with you. I'm not trying to get you to be "on my side" for this topic, just have you understand your misconception of these folks and there cars and their abilities. Yes, some, but very few are checkbook warriors, but its so few and far between. I'm attracted to the aspect that these are not dedicated track cars but can hold their own against some of them without much effort or prep, and not just drag style racing.
There's a group that does roll racing by us, that I've participated in a few times. This is how it works with this particular group... It's at the local drag strip [ which this year the NHRA division sanctioned + test and tune days, have now limited to 1/8th mile runs, on a track that has been 1/4 mile since forever [ 30+ yrs] ] The staging lanes are right behind the starting tree here, about 7 -8 stage lanes wide. They set cones at 1/4 mile mark - plus the regular timing billboards are there. and they set another set of cones at the 1/3 mile mark. The Roll- race and digs "strip" is not on the regular drag path, so there's no rubber laid down.
Every car has its at-the-wheels horsepower written on the windows, so people can gage what might be good competition for their vehicle. Cars line up in the approach area, and if you don't have your next race already set with someone, you ask folks if they want to run versus your vehicle. Standard speed when crossing the " start" at the line of the X-mas tree is 40 mph , but any # can be negotiated, and i was asking for a " roll from 30" due to my cars gearing.
You start back a couple hundred feet, the organizers ask if you want to burn-out [ dry] . Then they wave you both foward, accelerating thru the stage lanes and you both try to be crossing the start line, even with your opponent, at 30 or 40 or 60mph etc. - then you lay into the pedals. Everyone is asked " Roll or Dig ? " - so you can absolutely start from a HandDrop, from a dead stop 0mph, at the X-mas tree line, if you want. Then you run as hard and fast as possible up to the 1/3 mile cone, then let off. So you have rollrace cars leaving the line at maybe 40mph or more , than accelerating for another full 1/3 mile. It's usually about 75/25% or 80/20% - roll race to dig race ratio throughout the day.
My cars are both manual clutch 6 speeds. They are both in the slower, lower HP range for sure. Stock newer chubby scatpak challenger, and a light "kit-car" rear engine V6 twin turbo w/ about 440 crank HP. I disabled the traction control on the Scatpak for all the runs, and the kitcar has just a LSD in the transaxle.
Cars i ran against , some from a dig, most from a roll, with the claimed whp -- Jag XKR vert @510 -- CAddy CTSV @500 -- Merc SL55 @400 --Audi S4 @470 --newer Mustang @560 -- Hellcat Charger+ Challenger @700 -- BMW 235i on E30ethanoltune @450 -- Honda CRV { yes the little SUV thing} @ 600 -- "10 second" VW with VR6engine and 62mm turbo -- Nissan GTR all-wheel-drive @900 -- Acura NSX supercharged @735 -- and a 4 door sleeper BMW 3 series with a turbodiesel on methanol spray+ nitrous @ 434HP+ 738 ft-lbs torque .
There were some older drag oriented american iron that mostly ran digs as well, at the meets. Saw a 68ish Camaro 9 second car vs. a McLaren720. A Lamborghini vs a Tesla. A 600hp 1970's chevy truck vs a 600hp front drive honda, etc Lots of fast Japanese and European cars as well as American. Several twin turbo and supercharged Vipers. 1000Hp porsche. Just a real broad spectrum of cars and enthusiasts. Anyone was welcome . Many of these cars would be great on a road course track with various turns + braking points also. Hope this helps describe a roll-race day in better detail.
There's a group that does roll racing by us, that I've participated in a few times. This is how it works with this particular group... It's at the local drag strip [ which this year the NHRA division sanctioned + test and tune days, have now limited to 1/8th mile runs, on a track that has been 1/4 mile since forever [ 30+ yrs] ] The staging lanes are right behind the starting tree here, about 7 -8 stage lanes wide. They set cones at 1/4 mile mark - plus the regular timing billboards are there. and they set another set of cones at the 1/3 mile mark. The Roll- race and digs "strip" is not on the regular drag path, so there's no rubber laid down.
Every car has its at-the-wheels horsepower written on the windows, so people can gage what might be good competition for their vehicle. Cars line up in the approach area, and if you don't have your next race already set with someone, you ask folks if they want to run versus your vehicle. Standard speed when crossing the " start" at the line of the X-mas tree is 40 mph , but any # can be negotiated, and i was asking for a " roll from 30" due to my cars gearing.
You start back a couple hundred feet, the organizers ask if you want to burn-out [ dry] . Then they wave you both foward, accelerating thru the stage lanes and you both try to be crossing the start line, even with your opponent, at 30 or 40 or 60mph etc. - then you lay into the pedals. Everyone is asked " Roll or Dig ? " - so you can absolutely start from a HandDrop, from a dead stop 0mph, at the X-mas tree line, if you want. Then you run as hard and fast as possible up to the 1/3 mile cone, then let off. So you have rollrace cars leaving the line at maybe 40mph or more , than accelerating for another full 1/3 mile. It's usually about 75/25% or 80/20% - roll race to dig race ratio throughout the day.
My cars are both manual clutch 6 speeds. They are both in the slower, lower HP range for sure. Stock newer chubby scatpak challenger, and a light "kit-car" rear engine V6 twin turbo w/ about 440 crank HP. I disabled the traction control on the Scatpak for all the runs, and the kitcar has just a LSD in the transaxle.
Cars i ran against , some from a dig, most from a roll, with the claimed whp -- Jag XKR vert @510 -- CAddy CTSV @500 -- Merc SL55 @400 --Audi S4 @470 --newer Mustang @560 -- Hellcat Charger+ Challenger @700 -- BMW 235i on E30ethanoltune @450 -- Honda CRV { yes the little SUV thing} @ 600 -- "10 second" VW with VR6engine and 62mm turbo -- Nissan GTR all-wheel-drive @900 -- Acura NSX supercharged @735 -- and a 4 door sleeper BMW 3 series with a turbodiesel on methanol spray+ nitrous @ 434HP+ 738 ft-lbs torque .
There were some older drag oriented american iron that mostly ran digs as well, at the meets. Saw a 68ish Camaro 9 second car vs. a McLaren720. A Lamborghini vs a Tesla. A 600hp 1970's chevy truck vs a 600hp front drive honda, etc Lots of fast Japanese and European cars as well as American. Several twin turbo and supercharged Vipers. 1000Hp porsche. Just a real broad spectrum of cars and enthusiasts. Anyone was welcome . Many of these cars would be great on a road course track with various turns + braking points also. Hope this helps describe a roll-race day in better detail.
Thanks for posting this. The event you attended sounds great with the mix and match of roll and dig.
a few other things i thought was different than a regular drag day.
Since it wasn't racing against an ET bracket style, and there was no fear of breaking out of the predicted time, practically no-one let off the gas pedal before the end. Also there were no different classes [ pro, sportsman , superpro, jr drags, non-electronic, etc] so there was no time waiting while switching between classes - so other than a couple of mechanical failures/cleanup, the racers just kept cycling thru, and a fellow could have gotten as many runs as he wanted if he just kept getting back in line.
Instead of describing how they did in a race by saying "ohh, i got a 10.52 on a 10.50 dial in, with a .136 reaction time "- it was more like " We were even at the qtr, but he pulled 3 cars {length} on me- or- i won by 2 cars ! "
Also worth mentioning , there was a fellow in an all wheel drive Jeep SRT with a big turbo, i think @ 950hp . If i recall rightly, the Jeep beat an 1100hp late model mustang and a 900hp C6 Vette from a dig, and also beat one of the fast Vipers and a ~750 hp Ferrari from a roll.
Another guy i talked with had a stock plymouth Prowler and he was going against 250-300hp Civics + VW Jettas and such.
This is in Trona Ca.....you will see all types of cars! It is lots of fun to watch and participate in My brothers 2007 Corvette hit 164 mph. He wants to do a rolling mile course next.
Trona, CA is all the way to no where in the middle of the Mojave desert on the west side entrance into Death Valley, it stinks to high heaven from the chemical plant their If you take Hwy 395 north from Kramer junction CA towards Ridgecrest, CA you have to turn east off of Hwy 395 north of Johanisburg,(SP?) CA to get to Trona I have flown over it returning from Furnace Creek in Death Valley, CA. during the winter just to see that part of the Mojave desert, we would normally fly from Furnace Creek south towards Baker, Ca to get home to Hesperia. There are a bunch of restricted airspaces all over SO CA so you have to be careful to not fly into them without permission, there is a very narrow path(about 15 miles side I think) to fly between China Lake Naval air station restricted air space and the next restricted air space south of there towards Fort Irwin National training center. Those two promotors did good to pull that race off out there, I don't think there are more than 50 motel rooms in Trona Ridgecrest is north west of there about 25 miles and it does have a lot more motels and restaurants to choose from, China Lake NAS is next to Ridgecrest and Inyo Kern is about 5 miles west of Ridgecrest, I raced at Inyo Kern drag strip for many years from 1972 to the late 1990s. It was the oldest longest operating drag strip in CA. until it closed up in the early 2000s they raced on one of the taxi ways at the Inyo Kern airport They would have 5 or 6 races a year, one a month, depending on the weather from Dec until the next May, it got to hot to race in the summer days from May on until mid October or so. No lights for night racing either, racing on Sunday only, sometimes maybe a test and tune for locals only on Saturday once or twice a season. Days gone by, only in America
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Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
and all without any setup. Roll races just happen......most of the time 
and on top of it I beat that mod'd 396 Chevelle with a Mopar 383 ...........btw isn't this "roll on" how boat drag racing is done? 
He ended up buying a new Viper mainly because where the hell around here can you go 200? So who cares?
in a CRUMmaro .... 
they raced on one of the taxi ways at the Inyo Kern airport 