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Is this bondo? #2869129
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I might be losing my touch. Guy got kinda upset I pressed him on pics from the bottom side of this area. Says car has no bondo.

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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869131
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There is lead filler from the factory there.


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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869132
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Was told this isn’t rust on the door lip. Said Michigan guys call it “foundry grit.” Also that I’m seeing oil that was sprayed on it, to preserve it. Even though there isn’t any rust...

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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869138
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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
Guy got kinda upset I pressed him on pics from the bottom side of this area.


Red flag. Any honest person selling a car divulges what he himself would want to know prior to buying a car. Any salesman who gets upset when a buyer asks legitimate questions is trying to intimidate you to back off your review, for a reason.


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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: A39Coronet] #2869148
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Rust. Not necessarily fatal rust, but it's called rust everywhere I've been.
"Foundry grit" ?! laugh2

Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869149
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Looks like seam sealer, which Mopar used a lot. Just look in the trunk and see how it was gobbed in there.


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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #2869166
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Thanks guys. What got me thinking it was bondo was the paint looking different right there.

The foundry grit thing was a new one on me.

He took pics of the underside I asked for on his lift. Strangely he couldn’t manage any of that spot I said mattered most to me. Really gives me pause. One of the frame stubs running out to a rocker looks so what bad too, but it’s right in the cutoff of the pic so hard to say. Think this car is out so doesn’t matter anyway.


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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869171
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"Foundry grit." NEVER heard of this one before - that's a new one on me! That's made-up BS. To me, I'd need a better close-up of the door bottom to see if the lip is getting fat. It looks pretty crusty to me in the photo.

The dogleg area looks OK to me, but I'd like a better close-up. There was some seam sealer used in those areas, so if paint comes off, it can look like some bondo. They were never done neatly from the factory. Same with the blobs of sealant in the trunk pan seams that were really slopped on & painted over.


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Originally Posted by RWG75
Rust is a relative thing.


Amen. I remember a seller from Michigan once stating that if a car still cast a shadow it was rust-free.


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Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869227
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Foundry grit sounds like something you'd find in your engine block.

Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869232
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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
Michigan guys call it “foundry grit.” .


haha

Michigan guys who aren't trying to misrepresent a car usually call it "rust".

The rocker area looks like factory slop/lead+messy seam sealer and early stage rust.

The lap joints are always first to go.

Dipping will take care of it but has to be done perfectly and can create other problems.


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That sort of looks like rust on the bottom of the door to me. I put oil on my cars there, mainly from force of habbit from cars that get used year round having it but also because they can hold water there when they get wet. I've passed on what was probably good cars too if seller can't answer questions properly or take specific pictures you wanted. Some might have been really good cars but between their asking price and shipping I wasn't willing to pay twice the cars value if it turned out to be junk in person.

I've found that when a seller gets upset about someone bringing up rust and bondo it's because either they don't know their car has it because they bought it that way or they're trying to hide it. Good sellers usually either don't say much if they know there's not much chance of a sale anyway or know you're right or they'll nicely show you you're wrong or explain what's going on and then start getting upset if you keep at them.

Re: Is this bondo? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2869327
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On the door jamb area, that area is trick. The factory used lead to cover the seam where the quarter overlaps the rocker. But there is also a seam sealer used between the quarter and the jamb metal panel. Sometimes there is some excess seam sealer that squishes out at the bottom. This location gets exposed to moisture on the inside by any water that leaks past the outside window seal. The water should drip down and out the drain channel between the quarter and rocker panel that is behind it. Unfortunately, the seam sealer sometimes catches some of the water dripping and will cause some rust. I don't think that area looks too bad. The corner of the door looks like someone sprayed some of the rust converter/sealer in the corner of the door.


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I have heard many different terms that are used to describe rust. One buddy of mine has the annoying habit of redefining the severity.
That isn't surface rust, it is just scale.
That isn't rust, that is rot.
No, pal...ALL of it is rust, just different levels of severity.
The lower part of the door looks like rust to me. It got wet from the inside and has slowly corroded the metal from the inside out.
The door jamb may be just those small spots you see but they could be from behind and look much uglier from inside. A few pokes with a screwdriver could reveal the truth. Yeah, that is likely seam sealer at the lower inside corner as suggested.

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way back in the mid 70's when my buddy and i were going to the auction all the time, an interesting thing happened.
we were looking at a car [which neither of us can recall what it was to this day] and an old guy pressed his head between us and said : "Cars with Bondo aren't Safe !"
my buddy and i looked at each other, turned around, and the guy was GONE ! just disappeared !
we looked for him the rest of the day, and for MANY more auction days at ALL of the auction sites we attended, and NEVER saw hide nor hair of him again ! shock nervous

just a weird experience in our lives. we talk of this almost any time rust or bondo is brought up. laugh2
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Back about 1975 or 6 there was an ad in a local trader type publication for a Hemi Coronet RT minus engine. The ad said No Rust and the price seemed low. So I went to the bank to get cash and picked up a friend that knew more about hemi cars than me. Off to Cleveland Ohio we went (about an hour away). First clue should have been when he invited us into his house. There was no furniture, bare wood floors with most of the finish worn off and a naked baby rolling a hotdog around on the filthy floor. He took us out to the garage to see the car. My friend and I looked the car over, told him not interested and left. We laughed so hard all the way home that it was hard to breath. He wasn't exactly lying. It was a correct hemi car but the reason there was no rust was because he had cut the bottom of both quarters off with a saber saw. Everything below the trunk floor was gone. Of coarse the last laugh was probably on us because years later the value of these cars skyrocketed and it would have been well worth it to replace sheet metal. Back then not so much. I highly regret not buying that car but we did get a good laugh. laugh2. 45 years later all we have do is say "No Rust" and we both burst out laughing.

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The door jamb looks Ok. That corner is made of lead from the factory. The factory paint job isn’t good in these areas and some surface rust is starting. No big deal

The door is rust pitted, I think it’s only from the outside.

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Those blue plastic bucket seat hinge covers sure like to turn green. I have the same problem on my car...

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That door jam looks like my '69 RR ... after it had a patch panel applied !!

The factory quarter and rocker join pretty damn flush and are filled with lead. If this is all lead then the guy on the line did a crap job finishing it.

As for the door ... I'd be more concerned about what you don't see - inside the door.

Just my opinion.

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