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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: fast68plymouth] #2867427
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Who would ever have thought that a post about 80's and 90's technology would be the second or third most popular post on the first page of Moparts......7,100 views....lol


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #2867449
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Well...... it does have two favorite items in the article.
Iron heads and purple shaft cams. smoke


68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: fast68plymouth] #2867705
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Probably because of the demographics of this forum, we were all there in that time period, trying to get the same kind of motor, corralled in by the limited support for the engine and the brand at that time.. I would sit with the mopar engines book and the DC catalog, make a list, phone the dealer and have my dreams crushed by pricing and availability. Then when there was any kind of mopar build in any mag, it was exciting to see what parts they used and what power they made, in hopes there was new support on the horizon, which usually there wasn't but a mag had a picked up a project car and attempted a build.

Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Uberpube] #2868882
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Keywords to increase views (an experiment to see what happens to the numbers)

Direct Connection
Mopar Performance
Pinion Snubber
Slapper Bars
Pinion Angle
J converter
M1
Torker
TM7
TM6
Tunnel Ram


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: ZIPPY] #2869077
01/04/21 08:00 PM
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I just scored a set of blue anodized Direct Connection valve covers for my '68 GTS. It has a cable drive tach and sounds like the old .533 juice or .557 solid cams : D

It's not a record setting pound on your chest all over yellow bullet combination. It's old school nostalgic fun for me. Back when things were simple and Sunoco 110 was like $2.75 a gallon out of the pump.

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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Jeremiah] #2869091
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For me, it seems that the mid 70’s hot tip was still the Racer Brown SSH-25 or 44 hydraulic cams but the Purple Shaft cams of similar lift were gaining in popularity.

The GK cams like the A5H288B were kicka$$ cams too.

Had a Mini Express in my SS car in 1973, then went to the GK roller late that year and all of 74.

It’s a shame GK closed shop, Tewles and Brookshire where up there in talent equal to Crane and the others.

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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Transman] #2869145
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I'm still running an SSH-44. drive


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: ZIPPY] #2869155
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Keywords to increase views (an experiment to see what happens to the numbers)

Direct Connection
Mopar Performance
Pinion Snubber
Slapper Bars
Pinion Angle
J converter
M1
Torker
TM7
TM6
Tunnel Ram






PAW
B1
Thin wall
6 pack rods
3/4 race
full race

Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Uberpube] #2869225
01/05/21 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Uberpube
Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Keywords to increase views (an experiment to see what happens to the numbers)

Direct Connection
Mopar Performance
Pinion Snubber
Slapper Bars
Pinion Angle
J converter
M1
Torker
TM7
TM6
Tunnel Ram






PAW
B1
Thin wall
6 pack rods
3/4 race
full race






haha

800 views added overnight. Success or failure? You be the judge wink


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: ZIPPY] #2869258
01/05/21 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Originally Posted by Uberpube
Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Keywords to increase views (an experiment to see what happens to the numbers)

Direct Connection
Mopar Performance
Pinion Snubber
Slapper Bars
Pinion Angle
J converter
M1
Torker
TM7
TM6
Tunnel Ram






PAW
B1
Thin wall
6 pack rods
3/4 race
full race






haha

800 views added overnight. Success or failure? You be the judge wink


I think the answer to that is YES lol


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Bad340fish] #2869267
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whistling is that 7944 votes for iron heads and purple cam?

Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: lewtot184] #2869273
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It’s kinda funny and pathetic at the same time reading this and thinking back. The funny part is Direct Connection gave us the Bible on running anything from 8’s-14’s with junk parts. Lots of us were running high 9’s to low 10’s with factory heads, stock cranks, and TRW or Sealed Power heavy weight pistons with 2800-3200 pound cars and Super Stock springs. Now with stroker engines, cnc’d heads, lite-weight pistons, better tires, better suspensions, better traction at tracks, etc very few an put the total package to run fast at the track. Impressive DYNO numbers and somewhat pathetic track times. I see guys weekly that are t happy with their performance so instead of working to fix it throw a NOS kit on it. Laugh if you want at the old school ways but I know they had some pretty smart guys putting these packages together. Anyone look looking for those old cams may find them on their Dads parts shelves. I know I still have mine.


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6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: pittsburghracer] #2869275
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I love the fact that the technology for our stuff is ancient, personally. I love it even better when you go to a bracket race and they are still getting the job done, well in fact, and reliably. up drive

Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: pittsburghracer] #2869321
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


pathetic track times.


I resemble that remark wave

And yes, there is a .620 purple shaft in the basement just in case anyone wants one.




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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: ZIPPY] #2869402
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


pathetic track times.


I resemble that remark wave

And yes, there is a .620 purple shaft in the basement just in case anyone wants one.





I am porting a set of speedmaster heads for my son in Colorado and will be checking a couple purple shaft cams I have. I’m almost positive I have a 501 cam that they recommended for four speeds but hopefully have a 484 lift cam. He purchased a 340 so that would work perfect in the 1974 duster he is rebuilding. He just bought a J convertor while he was home from a buddy of mine. I’m trying to help as much as I can but I’m 2400 miles away.

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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: pittsburghracer] #2869410
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You guys are speaking my lingo, John. This is the first thread I've seen where I knew what anyone was talking about.....


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: ZIPPY] #2869440
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY


800 views added overnight. Success or failure? You be the judge wink


Are the Dominion machines adding views at 3AM?


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: mr_340] #2869626
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I remember in the 80s and 90s all the magazine builds were 350 chevy. Even for a mild build the thing would get gold roller tip rocker arms. On the rare occasion a magazine did a mopar it got roller tip rockers when stamped steel would have been perfect. Applying that Hot Rod and Car Craft Chevy mentality to mopars. A set of Crane adjustable rocker arms for a chevy in 1988 was like $90. A set of Harland Sharps for a mopar was $350 plus but they still threw them on. Thats why the mopar magaazine builds that used OEM parts were so appealing. Real world.


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Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: Steve1118] #2869643
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Originally Posted by Steve1118
You guys are speaking my lingo, John. This is the first thread I've seen where I knew what anyone was talking about.....

Yeah, this thread has been fun to read and very familiar, bought my GTX in 1975 bone stock. With G60 14s and my granny shifting it ran a 15.20, it was my daily driver, first thing my "expert" buddy said was you need headers and a 4.56 gear in that thing...with headers, purple hornies, 7" cheater slicks and better shifting I managed to get into the low 14s. The funny/scary thing about this read is how many of these old parts I still have on my shelves laugh2


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1967 Small block Dart under construction (almost finished)
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1976 D300 in work
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: 80’s or early 90’s MP “recipe” 440 build article [Re: pittsburghracer] #2869699
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


It’s kinda funny and pathetic at the same time reading this and thinking back. The funny part is Direct Connection gave us the Bible on running anything from 8’s-14’s with junk parts. Lots of us were running high 9’s to low 10’s with factory heads, stock cranks, and TRW or Sealed Power heavy weight pistons with 2800-3200 pound cars and Super Stock springs. Now with stroker engines, cnc’d heads, lite-weight pistons, better tires, better suspensions, better traction at tracks, etc very few an put the total package to run fast at the track. Impressive DYNO numbers and somewhat pathetic track times. I see guys weekly that are t happy with their performance so instead of working to fix it throw a NOS kit on it. Laugh if you want at the old school ways but I know they had some pretty smart guys putting these packages together. Anyone look looking for those old cams may find them on their Dads parts shelves. I know I still have mine.


First time i might agree with you...lol In the early 90s i had a .030 over 440. lightly ported 906's .509 hyd cam, stock pushrods and rockers. Strip dominator and propart headers. that thing is shifted low enough LOL went 11.90's all day long. A plate with an .073 jet (175ish HP) went 10.40's. Yea it was real basic a lot of stock parts, and yea it was relatively fast back then


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