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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: GY3] #2865900
12/28/20 10:38 PM
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Waiting 16 months for a block to put in my cuda was ridiculous. If not for Todd Marsh jumping in the azz of the people at KB I could still be waiting. Hopefully Callies will be different. In a yr or two I want to upgrade the engine in my wagon and the block from callies would fit the bill nicely.


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: GY3] #2865903
12/28/20 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by racerx
Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk


Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.


Why aren’t these KB scammed guys buying Indy blocks ? They are out there and now the company is even better !


....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: n20mstr] #2865919
12/28/20 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by racerx
Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk


Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.


Why aren’t these KB scammed guys buying Indy blocks ? They are out there and now the company is even better !

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I would like Todd to chime in on which block is best,KB supposed to be the king of the hill shruggy


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My condition is fully BLOWN!!
Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: n20mstr] #2865921
12/28/20 11:30 PM
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I don't think the Indy aluminum wedge and hemi are as good and as strong as the KB are according to what others on here have posted work
What say you and others that have used both?


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: Cab_Burge] #2865923
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I don't think the Indy aluminum wedge and hemi are as good and as strong as the KB are according to what others on here have posted work
What say you and others that have used both?


Sure a lot
Of people
Say KB is the best .......AND they don’t race for years ! If I waited for KB I’d still be not racing . Hmmmm it’s only the best if it’s out there and available . Otherwise it’s a bunch of bull$hit

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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: hemi-itis] #2865924
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Originally Posted by hemi-itis
Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by racerx
Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk


Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.


Why aren’t these KB scammed guys buying Indy blocks ? They are out there and now the company is even better !

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I would like Todd to chime in on which block is best,KB supposed to be the king of the hill shruggy


Sure KB is the best one you can buy ..... you just can’t get one !


....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: Cab_Burge] #2865939
12/29/20 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I don't think the Indy aluminum wedge and hemi are as good and as strong as the KB are according to what others on here have posted work
What say you and others that have used both?

^^^This was my thought^^^

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: n20mstr] #2865940
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by racerx
Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk


Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.


Why aren’t these KB scammed guys buying Indy blocks ? They are out there and now the company is even better !

N20mstr.....i no you've been pretty fast on a Indy block, but how much HP have you push though a Indy and what weigh?

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: racerx] #2865941
12/29/20 01:27 AM
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Didn't Indy new owners make changes to there new blocks? Could have sworn i read that somewhere before.

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: racerx] #2865943
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I hate them all equally..........just kidding. I have built all three Indy, KB and World Products aluminum and honestly they all work. I believe the KB is the best design but Lord knows when it will come. I liked the iron World Block to and it stands to reason the Callies blocks will be fine. Just build the damn things already. Todd

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: racerx] #2865968
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Originally Posted by racerx
Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by racerx
Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk


Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.


Why aren’t these KB scammed guys buying Indy blocks ? They are out there and now the company is even better !

N20mstr.....i no you've been pretty fast on a Indy block, but how much HP have you push though a Indy and what weigh?


141 in the 1/8 at 3050lbs
It did make 915 on the Dyno and we put 500? approx on top of that.
I can understand that people did not get good customer service from Indy in the past. BUT you cant dispute the products are pretty good. There are plenty of Indy Blocks out there performing pretty well. It just blows my mind that people complain about no blocks availible, however if they bought Indy blocks they would be racing......and maybe just maybe the prices would come down or at least stabilize.

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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: n20mstr] #2865979
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There was a period of time in the not to distant past when NO blocks were available from anyone! Thankfully new ownership stepped up at Indy and got the ball rolling again. I was caught in the vortex of no blocks when we needed one for the dragster and another build, after waiting for 8 months or so I bought a used engine just so I could get the kid out racing again. After fresheneing it up and making some changes it works fine, Indy block and all. The second block arrived from Indy I think 8-9 months after it was ordered. Thankfully we are back to a more steady supply of those, hopefully the new iron block will be the same eventually. Where when a guy needs one he can get one.

BTW yes Chevy owners complain all the time about the cost of parts. Even the run of the mill SB Chebbie guys do and their stuff should be carried at Dollar Tree. Oh yeah of late they even have lead times for parts on some stuff...


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: Al_Alguire] #2866110
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Well it is mana from above today here. Just got the tracking on 1 Callies hemi block and 2 aluminum World Products wedge blocks.......I will keep all posted when they arrive as to what I find in the boxes

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: sasquatch] #2866196
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
Well it is mana from above today here. Just got the tracking on 1 Callies hemi block and 2 aluminum World Products wedge blocks.......I will keep all posted when they arrive as to what I find in the boxes

Yey😀


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: gregsdart] #2866244
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We had trouble with the machining on the Indy block. It was pretty bad. Cylinders were .011 out of round and had .01 taper. Sleeves are thin too. Not to mention #5 cam bearing bore was way over sized and hemoraging oil on one side.

We have had pretty good luck on the World Cast Iron blocks as long as they don't drill the head deck holes into the water jackets. I hate that and there is no need to do that. Buddy of mine with the aluminum version is having trouble after two years with it in his car. Sleeve moved up and is letting water in....Doesn't sound like a cheap fix.

Wanted a KB, called many times with money in hand, and they never have a block. Called Bulldog and he had some coming, almost bought one until I talked with Barton....

So we built a stock block with concrete in it and a girdle, and we will rotate the world with that one....I do want another aftermarket block, but...I have trust issues.


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: Dragula] #2866421
12/30/20 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragula
We had trouble with the machining on the Indy block. It was pretty bad. Cylinders were .011 out of round and had .01 taper. Sleeves are thin too. Not to mention #5 cam bearing bore was way over sized and hemoraging oil on one side.


I'm assuming this block was ordered with the bores unfinished? Meaning the sleeves were installed and the inside diameter dimensions were the result of the press fit? I can't imagine a boring bar making a hole .011 out of round.
You frequently mention aftermarket blocks having no availability, I have heard very few incidents (maybe 1) of Indy having issues with reasonable delivery times.
Don't you own or work in a race engine shop? Order an Indy block with no finish machine work done, line bore and hone your mains, line bore your cam tunnel, cut your decks, bore and torque plate hone your cylinders, address the oil drainback shortcomings and be on your way, not all that much more work than prepping an old iron block.

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: GTS340] #2866473
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I guess it is ancient history now, but 08 to '13 I would post every couple months on how things were going with blocks.
(Small blocks too).

Alot of times there would be a half dozen to dozen or so in stock, and they would usually just sit there for weeks (if not months).

I'd get PMs from people "Hey do you mean chrysler actually has these on hand?" And I'd answer "Yes, there are 6 of them in PDC inventory
right now. You can literally walk into a dealership and buy 6 of these today"

They would all sit there for what seemed like a long time....Eventually they would all sell, but not super quickly.
Certainly nothing like any part you could name for an LS.

just my humble opinon...but it seems like having the magic combination of eager customers with funds available and the parts available at the same time
has always been an issue. When parts are available, alot of times either folks don't have the money or don't want to take the big leap of faith.
There is usually some kind of a wait involved for one, or the other to come around to where it needs to be.
Alot of times, basic Human nature works against our own goals/we are our own worst enemy.


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: ZIPPY] #2866477
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Well the first Callies hemi block just arrived with a BIG blue M on the box and a Mopar part number. Interesting.
Todd

Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: sasquatch] #2866482
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
Well the first Callies hemi block just arrived with a BIG blue M on the box and a Mopar part number. Interesting.
Todd



Maybe it appears similar to this?:

[Linked Image]


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Re: Mancini Selling Callies Blocks [Re: ZIPPY] #2866508
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
I guess it is ancient history now, but 08 to '13 I would post every couple months on how things were going with blocks.
(Small blocks too).

Alot of times there would be a half dozen to dozen or so in stock, and they would usually just sit there for weeks (if not months).

I'd get PMs from people "Hey do you mean chrysler actually has these on hand?" And I'd answer "Yes, there are 6 of them in PDC inventory
right now. You can literally walk into a dealership and buy 6 of these today"

They would all sit there for what seemed like a long time....Eventually they would all sell, but not super quickly.
Certainly nothing like any part you could name for an LS.

just my humble opinon...but it seems like having the magic combination of eager customers with funds available and the parts available at the same time
has always been an issue. When parts are available, alot of times either folks don't have the money or don't want to take the big leap of faith.
There is usually some kind of a wait involved for one, or the other to come around to where it needs to be.
Alot of times, basic Human nature works against our own goals/we are our own worst enemy.


Or they walked into their dealer and got the we haven't had those for years response from some barely functional parts dept dweeb...

Kevin

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