Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
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12/28/20 10:27 AM
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Use the Crane melonized instead if you are changing out for a roller cam.
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Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
[Re: mrob]
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12/28/20 12:32 PM
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I don't have first hand knowledge of their part, but make sure you limit it's up and down travel with a distributor shaft collar. My bronze gear wear was dramatically reduced once I did that. I was going to try and have the part cryo treated by Hughes, but I switched cams and went with the melonized gear.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
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12/28/20 07:57 PM
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Thanks, jbc. That's a very good idea.
If I remember correctly, a 1/2" ID shaft collar will work (like shown in your pic). Do you remember where you found yours? Ace Hardware and Tractor Supply have them
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Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
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12/29/20 03:28 PM
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I haven't purchased the 440 Source bronze gear intermediate shafts for over 10 years now. My experience with them at that time has me buying the Mopar or Milodon ones now. Who knows....they may have been improved since then.
Last edited by LaRoy Engines; 12/29/20 03:29 PM.
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Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
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12/29/20 05:54 PM
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As mentioned above, and at the other online hard parts suppliers as well. Be sure to disassemble and thoroughly clean the set screw and collar with brake or carb cleaner and loctite the screw. I also replaced and burnished the intermediate shaft bushing with the Mopar specific tool, lubed it with assembly lube and used a feeler gauge between the combined parts to position the collar once the distributor hold down was fully seated. I left the collar just snugged at first to allow it to slide to the proper position, and then fully tightened it. That allows enough room for oil to float the intermediate shaft gear on the top of the bushing.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: 440 source intermediate shaft w/bronze gear
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12/30/20 01:09 PM
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Loctite has somewhat recently come out with an orange loctite that holds like red, but removes easier, more like the blue. I have been using red lately and only one fastener was super hard to disassemble, but still doable. I'm going to buy some of the orange if I can find it.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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