Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/14/20 11:29 PM
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flush it out real good and use water only... get the temp up to 200 or a little higher like its about to overheat. the reason to do that is it will open the crack real good. if it stops the leak, it will prob. never leak again unless you get it hotter than when you made this repair. there are many products with many issues. this works really well and last. Buy this ! https://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/3...=4579878248437694&utm_content=Moroso It says not to use with antifreeze, I’m guessing water on first application, once it’s sealed use the mix? yes . . antifreeze interferes with the cure of ceramic seal. after you get it sealed and you know you have stopped the leak, you can run all the antifreeze you like ! get it good and hot -not ring killing hot just try to hit 220 .. i always run fresh water in and keep it coming out [flush it w/ engine running no t- stat ]until its very clean. then close it up and then run it with only water and ceramic seal until its up to 200-215 .
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/15/20 06:10 AM
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flush it out real good and use water only... get the temp up to 200 or a little higher like its about to overheat. the reason to do that is it will open the crack real good. if it stops the leak, it will prob. never leak again unless you get it hotter than when you made this repair. there are many products with many issues. this works really well and last. Buy this ! https://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/3...=4579878248437694&utm_content=Moroso It says not to use with antifreeze, I’m guessing water on first application, once it’s sealed use the mix? yes . . antifreeze interferes with the cure of ceramic seal. after you get it sealed and you know you have stopped the leak, you can run all the antifreeze you like ! get it good and hot -not ring killing hot just try to hit 220 .. i always run fresh water in and keep it coming out [flush it w/ engine running no t- stat ]until its very clean. then close it up and then run it with only water and ceramic seal until its up to 200-215 . So this isn't a race motor - it's a street car. I read the data sheet on this stuff and it says pretty clearly to run pure water only once it's used. I would prefer not to have to do that. What about the antifreeze friendly stuff? Moroso All Weather Seal 35520
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/15/20 10:00 AM
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Bar’s Leaks Radiator Stop Leak Tablets inhibit the formation of rust and scale, neutralize pH imbalance, control electrolysis, lubricate and seal internal, external and coolant-to-oil leaks. Imagine getting that range of effectiveness in a product you can buy off the shelf rather than through service only a mechanic can provide. In fact, this is the same product that’s been used right on the assembly line by OEM automakers around the world for 30+ years. This solution is the result of careful research and testing on the part of our team of top-flight chemical engineers. They work each day to improve existing products like our radiator leak repair tablets, as well as to develop new products to keep up with the latest in automotive innovations and technologies.
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/15/20 03:11 PM
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ceramic seal will work fine after its cured, with antifreeze...... heres another brands same product... scroll to the bottom. read the last sentence .. http://irontite.com/ceramicmotorseal/ I ordered the Ironside Ceramic Seal and their flush. I may go that route as it seems more specific to my scenario.
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/17/20 04:15 PM
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Update for everyone: - I drained the coolant this morning. Been in the motor for just under 3 years and it looked fine. Very little sediment/rust and no oil in it. - I refilled with tap water only and took a drive. No issues. When the IronTite kit comes in, I will do the "flush" and then the ceramic seal (with distilled water). I will let you know how it turns out.
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/17/20 05:31 PM
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Update for everyone: - I drained the coolant this morning. Been in the motor for just under 3 years and it looked fine. Very little sediment/rust and no oil in it. - I refilled with tap water only and took a drive. No issues. When the IronTite kit comes in, I will do the "flush" and then the ceramic seal (with distilled water). I will let you know how it turns out. there are many products out there like the blue devil. it will do this job too. only problem is it can stop up other things. i never had any "issues " with this system .. there is not 1 way to do it. this is tried and true for me.. i am confident it will work very well for you ! let us know..
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/20/20 07:04 AM
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Listen to what NITROUSN has advised. These pellets are cheap, effective, will not clog heater cores and will do the trick. You do not have to drain the system, and you do not have to run without antifreeze when it's below freezing outside. GM specified these for use in the Northstar engines and others where porosity was an issue. I've use them countless times and usually keep some in stock at the shop.
We had a friend who had a suburban that would lose a half gallon of coolant a month for years. They spent thousands of dollars replacing this and that at the advice of three different mechanics. Nothing worked. They were about to get rid of it when they were over at the house and told the story. I asked if they wanted me to give it a shot. They agreed. I took off the radiator end of the top radiator hose, crushed up two of these pellets and put them in, topped off the coolant and drove it around for a half hour. They still have the vehicle to this day and have never had to add more coolant.
Certainly worth a try
Last edited by 70Duster; 12/20/20 07:10 AM.
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Re: Mysterious coolant Leak
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12/21/20 02:11 PM
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So I thought about this more and went ahead and pulled the T-Stat and reverse flushed the cooling system by blasting water through the t-stat neck out of the lower hose. I used a shop vac to then blew air the same way until it was pretty dry.
I didn't see anything besides watered down coolant come out - no sediment or gunk. Since this system seems pretty clean, should I bother with using a flush product at this point or go straight to the ceramic sealer? I am pretty confident that there is pretty close to zero anti-freeze left in the system and I had no issues with my heater core as far as lack of heat.
I am trying to avoid having to put the t-stat back together, running the car, then having to tear it down (while hot) to get the flush out completely so it doesn't sit in the system. Am I asking for more trouble using a flush product? Or should I just use it since I bought it? What about leaving the t-stat out just for the flushing process so I can just pop the hose to flush? My car has AC so one of those housing bolts is a PITA to get on when the motor is nice and hot. ---- > with the t stat out, remove the lower w/pump hose from the rad. . with the eng. running, keep your garden hose running inside the lower hose and it will flush it self out in a few minutes. the cleaner the better. then add your sealer ...
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