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Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: mopars4ever] #2853982
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Originally Posted by mopars4ever
If it were me I would use a mopar t stat.


Why? Because Mopar stuff doesn't fail? Uhhhyeah.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: moparjim79] #2854006
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You really need to check for combustion in the cooling system.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2854160
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Originally Posted by KcCrown
Ok. MAYBE found it.

I pulled the second thermostat in 8 weeks....
To test it on the stove. .
I didnt believe it was that, because , seriously, 2 bad brand new thermostats in a row?? The more expensive one? Junk from the git go? But. It went up to temp, opened up and Stuck open. Froze in the open position. Removing it from the hot water, it refused to close back down. I had to force it to close l0ng after it cooled. So. I gotta assume a problem with the thermostat. This time I will but the gasket for it. In case there is any kind of air leak around the housing. And seal it up better on install.

Does everyone agree .. this could be what's wrong.? .

Bonefishmastr. When lm done putting in the new thermostat and using a gasket.. l am going to jack up the front to bleed it out. Maybe if l do all this stuff 100% on point . I can come away running like a champ.

Is there anything that can destroy thermostats? Just curious.
the one main thing that can destroy a t-stat .... CHINA

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: mopars4ever] #2854593
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Ok. Well. New thermostat new gasket. Not fixed.

Sigh.....

I am getting steam and coolant from way down under the block near the drivers side fire wall. It has to be leaking and have a breach in the coolant system/ up -down /in this location.
It is Under the booom and near the drivers side fire wall. What connects to the coolant system here? Heater core? A simple hose fitting? I need to jack this car up high and look at where it's coming out from. Simple ad that.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2854605
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Originally Posted by KcCrown
Ok. Well. New thermostat new gasket. Not fixed.

Sigh.....

I am getting steam and coolant from way down under the block near the drivers side fire wall. It has to be leaking and have a breach in the coolant system/ up -down /in this location.
It is Under the booom and near the drivers side fire wall. What connects to the coolant system here? Heater core? A simple hose fitting? I need to jack this car up high and look at where it's coming out from. Simple ad that.



Head gasket or freeze plug?


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Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2854655
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Originally Posted by KcCrown
Ok. Well. New thermostat new gasket. Not fixed.

Sigh.....

I am getting steam and coolant from way down under the block near the drivers side fire wall. It has to be leaking and have a breach in the coolant system/ up -down /in this location.
It is Under the booom and near the drivers side fire wall. What connects to the coolant system here? Heater core? A simple hose fitting? I need to jack this car up high and look at where it's coming out from. Simple ad that.


The heater core is connected at the firewall at the back of the engine.

Have you used a pressure tester on the cooling system yet?

If there's a leak back there the tester should help you locate it.

If there's a leak it will push out coolant when hot and suck in air when it cools off.
The result is the overflow bottle will never work if there's a leak.

You need to figure out where the leak is.

That's what the pressure tester is for.
If it's pushing coolant out a exterior leak (freeze plug,external gasket leak, etc) you will see coolant drip.
It won't help find it if it's internal like a head gasket leaking into a cylinder.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2854669
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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by KcCrown
Ok. Well. New thermostat new gasket. Not fixed.

Sigh.....

I am getting steam and coolant from way down under the block near the drivers side fire wall. It has to be leaking and have a breach in the coolant system/ up -down /in this location.
It is Under the booom and near the drivers side fire wall. What connects to the coolant system here? Heater core? A simple hose fitting? I need to jack this car up high and look at where it's coming out from. Simple ad that.


The heater core is connected at the firewall at the back of the engine.

Have you used a pressure tester on the cooling system yet?

If there's a leak back there the tester should help you locate it.

If there's a leak it will push out coolant when hot and suck in air when it cools off.
The result is the overflow bottle will never work if there's a leak.

You need to figure out where the leak is.

That's what the pressure tester is for.
If it's pushing coolant out a exterior leak (freeze plug,external gasket leak, etc) you will see coolant drip.
It won't help find it if it's internal like a head gasket leaking into a cylinder.



This^^^& also, under your intake manifold, there are 2 coolant crossover tubes that run from the timing cover to behind your engine, both have separate fittings that are quick connect plastic fittings.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: 3hundred] #2854807
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I really dont believe this is a head gasket. There is nothing going on in any other way to indicate head gasket. No powerless. No cross over to oil at all. Very clean oil. Full power and compression.
I did some reading and on this engine there is a Hose that runs exactly where lm describing that can break or split or get pin holes and do this. Also freeze plug is a possibility as well.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2854933
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Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: moparjim79] #2854941
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The over flow cap itself is leaking a little as it comes up to.pressure. the leak is running down the line that goes towards the firewall and dripping on the exhaust manifold. This could honestly be as simple as a Failing Cap. I am running to get a brand new one. I have not pressure tested yet only because my gut believes l have full compression and am chading a simple leak in the system. Process of illumination however if this doesn't cure my ills l will have to go get the test kit next. No options left after this.

Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2854982
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Originally Posted by KcCrown
The over flow cap itself is leaking a little as it comes up to.pressure. the leak is running down the line that goes towards the firewall and dripping on the exhaust manifold. This could honestly be as simple as a Failing Cap. I am running to get a brand new one. I have not pressure tested yet only because my gut believes l have full compression and am chading a simple leak in the system. Process of illumination however if this doesn't cure my ills l will have to go get the test kit next. No options left after this.


A cooling system pressure test has absolutely nothing to do with cylinder compression.

It tests the cooling system for leaks, that's all it does.

The tester also has the equipment to test the radiator cap to see if it's leaking or properly holding pressure.

I have a 2007 300 SRT, there is no coolant overflow cap on these cars only a radiator cap.
It's the exact same setup on my wife's 2006 Charger Daytona.

The overflow when it goes out the radiator cap when too much pressure is built up goes into the reservoir that is molded as part of the plastic tank that has the radiator cap.

The hose going to the back of the engine is a coolant hose and will be under pressure when hot.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Thank you for this explanation. Ok. So. The cap on the overflow is leaking and running down that line that goes to the back of the firewall. Then dripping onto the manifold and steaming off if that. There is no radiator cap. Only this cap iff the over dlow where the fluid is added. Different system than lve ever has before. But. Feom everything lm reading it sounds like this cap cant leak. It must seal. And then it will allow the system to operate correctly. Is this true

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Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: KcCrown] #2855067
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Originally Posted by KcCrown
Thank you for this explanation. Ok. So. The cap on the overflow is leaking and running down that line that goes to the back of the firewall. Then dripping onto the manifold and steaming off if that. There is no radiator cap. Only this cap iff the over dlow where the fluid is added. Different system than lve ever has before. But. Feom everything lm reading it sounds like this cap cant leak. It must seal. And then it will allow the system to operate correctly. Is this true


There is no cap on the overflow.

There is only a radiator cap on the reservoir.
[Linked Image]

The small black hose in the pic is the overflow hose.

The two nipples at the back of the coolant tank are both on the pressurized side of the coolant tank.
There should be NO LEAKS there.

If there are, there's a problem, either a cracked coolant tank or a cracked or not seated hose.

The one hose that comes out the back of the coolant tank goes back to a t-fitting in the heater hoses.
The t-fitting is usually plastic and could be cracked.
Pic below video link.




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Re: Hemi 5.7 overheating after new thermostat and air purge. [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2855776
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Yes. This all makes perfect sense to me. Sorry l did use the wrong word. You are 100% right.

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[15min idoling with cap off.. it is bubbling an air bubble every 30 seconds and steaming a bit.

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After 18 min idoling and bubbling slowly, it finally opened the thermostat and fluid dripped a bit, l refilled back to full and am watching.
I wonder honestly if l am still just getting trapped air out.

It suddenly pushed coolant up to top of Cap hole and over slowed a touch then dropped back to about normal.
When l turned it off, it over slowed a little and then dropped back to normal. Its warm but not crazy hot.

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I've tried to remember everything I've read; you have always purged with heater on high, right?

And the pressurizers are great because you can really look all around the cooling system closely without fear of burn, steam in your face, etc.

Those reservoirs are actually pretty cheap. I replaced mine with Mopar one just to have a clearer view, and I believe it was about $40.


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No actually No one said to have the yester on? Every one including the video l watched have the engine cold and off to purge. ?
What does the heater on do??

And, I just went on a test drive. Coolant is literally boiling in the reservoir. wow. Boiling. Crazy. The thermostat stayed perfect on the dash for the ride. And it didnt Steam until l got back and turned the engine off.

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I dont see any leak from the Reservoir. It honestly seems like l am still purging air from inside. Like it is incredibly stubborn to purge.

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