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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: Grizzly] #2840173
11/01/20 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Originally Posted by Satilite73


The new one is under warranty, so I may just swap it out after checking a few things. scope hammer


That's a good move, my experience with aftermarket sensors or anything electrical is terrible. If the part is NS1 at the dealer, go to Pick and Pull and grab a few.


I read somewhere that aftermarket replacement parts like this don't play well with the computer? I priced a 'genuine' Mopar one and the price was $70-$100. shock I bought a Standard Brand one from ORileys for $42.

With my bum ankle, I haven't had the ability to go wander a PNP for parts. frowwn


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: moparx] #2840174
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by TJP
Silly question? Any chance the temp sensor is bad and possibly going open or giving the wrong value to the ECM. shruggy Just a thought wink



i have seen temperature sensors act like that when they have a "coating" of sorts on the bulb that sees the coolant.
when shined up to "new" brass, sometimes they come back to life.
would be an easy thing to try.
beer


Is there more than one? Temp gauge seems to work correctly. shruggy


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: SattyNoCar] #2840196
11/01/20 02:29 PM
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Before I scampered off to ORileys, I took a look the new IAC I had installed. Unlike the old one, it IS adjustable. Hmmmm. Went to Standards website, and found instructions on how to adjust it. My part came with no instructions, and I didn't know I HAD to adjust it. mad

Well, I made an adjustment and have it running now. I'll see how it is once it gets up to temp.

PART LINKY with link to instructions.

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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: SattyNoCar] #2840203
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Originally Posted by Satilite73
Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by TJP
Silly question? Any chance the temp sensor is bad and possibly going open or giving the wrong value to the ECM. shruggy Just a thought wink



i have seen temperature sensors act like that when they have a "coating" of sorts on the bulb that sees the coolant.
when shined up to "new" brass, sometimes they come back to life.
would be an easy thing to try.
beer


Is there more than one? Temp gauge seems to work correctly. shruggy


There are actually two temp sensors on the Magnums. One is for the gauge, the other is for the computer.

They are close to each other, but one kinda hides back in there.


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: hp383] #2840366
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I think it needs a little more adjusting, but for now, she's a runner again! Thanks everyone! beer



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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: SattyNoCar] #2840378
11/01/20 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Satilite73
Originally Posted by Grizzly
Originally Posted by Satilite73


The new one is under warranty, so I may just swap it out after checking a few things. scope hammer


That's a good move, my experience with aftermarket sensors or anything electrical is terrible. If the part is NS1 at the dealer, go to Pick and Pull and grab a few.


I read somewhere that aftermarket replacement parts like this don't play well with the computer? I priced a 'genuine' Mopar one and the price was $70-$100. shock I bought a Standard Brand one from ORileys for $42.

Yeah, the PCM is reading in milivolts.........if them Jobber Clowns can't get a cotter pin hole in the right spot on ball joints, you can be certain their voltage range is at least a decimal point out of spec down

With my bum ankle, I haven't had the ability to go wander a PNP for parts. frowwn

You are so missing out on the finer things, I just picked up a Hurst shifter from PNP for 7 dollars yesterday! grin Glad you got it fixed, sounds good to me. up



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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below NOT fixed [Re: Grizzly] #2841004
11/02/20 10:44 PM
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Well, still not 100%. frown (haven't made more adjustments since video) It's in the upper 50's here now and I used the truck tonite to run a few errands after work.

Cold start, started fine, idle was a little low, but it did idle. Full temp, idled as in video.

However, that gray area between not quite cold and not quite hot caused issues. I had to two foot it a few times until the temp came back up.

popcorn


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below MAYBE fixedd [Re: SattyNoCar] #2853047
11/29/20 06:50 PM
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Well, got tired of jackin' with the aftermarket part and bought a genuine MOPAR one instead........

shock

Initial driving impressions are that the truck has NEVER run this smooth or has been as responsive.

Stop and go traffic, blasting down the freeway, cold start, hot start, lukewarm start, it never missed a beat.

Dare I say I have my truck back? work

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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below MAYBE fixedd [Re: SattyNoCar] #2853143
11/29/20 10:16 PM
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Did you buy the Mopar one from a dealer, or someplace else? Mind telling us how much it cost? Gene

Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below MAYBE fixedd [Re: SattyNoCar] #2853150
11/29/20 10:43 PM
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[quote=Satilite73]
Well, got tired of jackin' with the aftermarket part and bought a genuine MOPAR one instead........

What OE part,temp sensor? or??

Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below MAYBE fixedd [Re: RTSrunner] #2853174
11/29/20 11:52 PM
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The only place I could find an IAC was on ebay.

Here's the listing: Mopar 53030657AB Idle Air Control

Supposedly the last one they had in stock.

Got here sooner than estimated.

Local dealer didn't have one and couldn't get one. Knowing one was on ebay, I didn't argue with the dealer about it.






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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below MAYBE fixedd [Re: SattyNoCar] #2853570
11/30/20 09:39 PM
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bump because I don't know if the people who asked questions got their answer......


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below 1200RPM? [Re: SattyNoCar] #2854214
12/02/20 10:43 AM
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Its always sounds ignorant and bad to say "I saw on the internet...." But via the internet watching legit techs/shop owners on Youtube- and repair podcasts I learned about 5 years ago when it comes to certain models - replacement sensors and computers must be an OEM unit and is the the only choice- no matter how much $$$. The trusted aftermarket name brands of yesteryear have thrown in the towel and went extra cheapie cheap.


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below 1200RPM? [Re: 2boltmain] #2855524
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The trusted aftermarket name brands of yesteryear have thrown in the towel and went extra cheapie cheap.

iagree 100% The first one that popped into my mind when reading that statement was MOOG, but it seems prevalent with all aftermarket companies now. Unless I do something to eliminate the factory electronics in my truck, I'm pretty sure they're gonna be its downfall above anything else. frowwn flame


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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below 1200RPM? [Re: SattyNoCar] #2855590
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Originally Posted by Satilite73

The trusted aftermarket name brands of yesteryear have thrown in the towel and went extra cheapie cheap.

iagree 100% The first one that popped into my mind when reading that statement was MOOG, but it seems prevalent with all aftermarket companies now. Unless I do something to eliminate the factory electronics in my truck, I'm pretty sure they're gonna be its downfall above anything else. frowwn flame



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Re: '93 Dakota suddenly won't run below 1200RPM? [Re: SattyNoCar] #2855633
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Originally Posted by Satilite73

The trusted aftermarket name brands of yesteryear have thrown in the towel and went extra cheapie cheap.

iagree 100% The first one that popped into my mind when reading that statement was MOOG, but it seems prevalent with all aftermarket companies now. Unless I do something to eliminate the factory electronics in my truck, I'm pretty sure they're gonna be its downfall above anything else. frowwn flame


I was going to suggest Microsquirt, which is what I am using on my 51 Plymouth's EFI swap. However, you are still stuck with poor aftermarket parts for sensors and such. Junkyard here we come.

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