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Re: 2018 Drag Week story, Hemi Joel version [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2848192
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as the saying goes : "better late than never !"
thanks for the update joel ! up i really enjoyed seeing billy again, and your coupe is an inspiration for me to get back on my [unending] humpback project.
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It takes more time than a guy would think to write this stuff and get the pictures all edited to make a post. But starting up on the story again last night helped rejuvenate my enthusiasm for drag week 2021. It was time well spent, as I need that motivation to prioritize what I'm working on, get busy on the Hemi coupe and put it back together. I'm in the process of freshening up the hemi, and face plating the transmission. I already got the carburetors turned around and the fuel system remodeled. I'm putting in a set of conical valve springs, and I'm going to test an eight carb intake that has short runners instead of this long cross ram, and I'm also going to test the hot heads dual quad intake.


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I miss Drag Week. Sure hope we can go in 2021...


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Thanks for all the pictures and re-cap....I wish I could attend one of these years. Its been a goal of mine for a long time. I have a car capable of running it, just needs the cage finished and a hitch and it could enter it. Never drove my Hemi that far though, so I have no idea if it would hold up, I doubt it and really want to switch to Hellcat power. So I very much enjoy the stories and commentary...Thanks again. And it looks like you picked the wrong car for that year with all that rain...Man , between that and the heat, that looked grueling.


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Originally Posted by Dragula
Thanks for all the pictures and re-cap....I wish I could attend one of these years. Its been a goal of mine for a long time. I have a car capable of running it, just needs the cage finished and a hitch and it could enter it. Never drove my Hemi that far though, so I have no idea if it would hold up, I doubt it and really want to switch to Hellcat power. So I very much enjoy the stories and commentary...Thanks again. And it looks like you picked the wrong car for that year with all that rain...Man , between that and the heat, that looked grueling.


You have to have a Push forward, and Can do attitude at Drag Week. You need the ability to overcome simple things, and react and address the tough stuff. I will also say, if you plan on bringing a Trunk Monkey, the two of you better get along for a long time. It's not just the Week itself, but days leading up to the event, and then add in travel time together. Luckily Joel and I get along great. We laugh at the same stupid stuff, and have taken many road trips together. It's gotten pretty simple when you know the others next move.


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Jeff...You get along good with everyone you meet! wave


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
I miss Drag Week. Sure hope we can go in 2021...


That seemed like a sure thing until here recently, no telling what will be going on.


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Originally Posted by tboomer
Jeff...You get along good with everyone you meet! wave


You might think that, but I assure you, no I don't. LOL.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by tboomer
Jeff...You get along good with everyone you meet! wave


You might think that, but I assure you, no I don't. LOL.


laugh2 Glad you said it, I wasn't touching that one! laugh2


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Conspicuously absent from Zmax Dragway was our nitro-junkie hero, Brian Kohlmann. His pass at Darlington Tuesday did not go so well. He ended up blowing a head gasket. Not knowing about the gasket issue at first, he did drive the car to the hotel in Charlotte. After noticing water on the windshield, he pulled over and diagnosed the problem. He made it the rest of the way to the hotel by adding water as needed. A whole gang of helpers converged on the car to fix the ailing hemi. Unfortunately when they got the car apart they found that he had torched the head. There was no way to fix it in time, so Brian bummed a ride with a local back to Atlanta to get his truck and trailer. After spending the night in the trailer waiting for the staff at Atlanta dragway to unlock the gate, he drove back to Charlotte, loaded up the nitro coupe and headed for home. You would think he would be bummed, but Brian doesn’t show it. He just bounces back with fresh determination and optimism about the next shot. It's kinda like this: with our gasoline burning race cars, we know we're going to be changing plugs and changing oil with frequency, may be tearing down the motor to freshen it up every year or 2, or three. So when it's time to do that we don't sweat it. Well, running nitromethane, Brian knows that he's going to be changing out rings, bearings, pistons, rods, welding on the block and heads, etc. on a regular basis. It's just an expected part of the process. So he just jumps in and gets it done without drama, and continues to work on the tune to get the car quicker and more reliable.
Brian figured out that the reason the car laid down at the big end of the track at Atlanta, and the reason that it blew the head gasket at Darlington, was because of his new big fuel pump in the mechanical injection system. He had upped the pump size because of a prior lack of fuel. But when the hemi got to singing its high rpm song, that big pump was pushing more fuel than the bypass could handle, and that made for too much nitro for the amount of air available. Later, to solve the issue, Brian added a second bypass, and increased the blower speed by 25%. That seems to be what the hemi wanted and it has been running very strong.

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Re: 2018 Drag Week story, Hemi Joel version [Re: JERICOGTX] #2848853
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by tboomer
Jeff...You get along good with everyone you meet! wave


You might think that, but I assure you, no I don't. LOL.
LOL

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Dale Gephardt had showed up with the new car this year, a tube chassis duster that landed him in the unlimited class. His opening shot at Atlanta had been an 8.76 at 165! He dropped into the low nines at Darlington, but redeemed himself today with an 8.95 at 160.
Mopar Billy was back with his small block powered, Kelvinator white 62 valiant. Unfortunately on Monday he had to take a 20 second default time slip because he didn’t make it up to the starting line before it started raining. He was none too happy about that! But he came back swinging, spraying his way to a 9.83 and a 9.66 at Darlington and Charlotte, respectively.

Tom Bailey with his "Sick Seconds" Camaro was leading unlimited with an astounding string of sixes. 6.73, 6.67, and at Charlotte is 6.65 at 219 mph!

And meanwhile, the fake news talking heads continued to proclaim that we were in dire circumstances, admonishing us to get out while we still had a thread of hope for survival.

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Re: 2018 Drag Week story, Hemi Joel version [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2848869
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On the road trip between Darlington and Charlotte, Jeff and I had noticed some exhaust noise coming from the left side of the hemi. Before we hit the road for Bristol, we decided we should change out the header gasket on that side. Despite my limited cargo space, I did bring some spare parts, including header gaskets. My hard-working trunk monkey got busy on that task pronto.
Freiburger had announced that we would be free to choose our route to Bristol, but that there would be a mandatory checkpoint at Pat Musi's race shop, about 30 miles from the track. He also informed us that some sponsors had kicked in for food and refreshments and strongly urged us to go in and eat to show support for the sponsors. Well, that all sounded like a lot of fun, but I still felt very uneasy about wasting any time. The forecasted rain blowing in was weighing heavy on me. I just wanted to hightail it out of here and get to Bristol as quick as I could.
Jim Forbes a.k.a. “Hemi Squirrel” and I had a little powwow to contemplate the best route. Hemi Squirrel likes to do everything the old-school way. It’s obvious just by looking at his early funny car re-creation, which he named “Almost Funny”. Everything on it is era correct. He’s running points in the thing, old-fashioned homemade wheelie bars and everything else vintage that he can possibly do. So it wasn’t surprising to me that he shuns GPS, and unfolded a printed map on the slender fender top of Almost Funny. And what an extraordinarily fortunate occurrence that turned out to be!

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Ahh and the subtle art of the cliff hanger......

Doing great man, keep it up smile

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Originally Posted by Alchemi
Ahh and the subtle art of the cliff hanger......

Doing great man, keep it up smile


The good fortune predicted in this cliff hanger did not reveal itself to us for another 8 hours, so sorry, you'll have to hang for a while! whistling wave


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I am really enjoying this Joel, please keep it going.

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Google maps insisted that it knew the best and shortest way to get from our location to Bristol Tennessee, and it made sense to me. Everybody else I checked with was planning to go that way, the least number of miles. But Hemi Squirrels printed map told a different story. When you look at Google maps, all the roads look about the same, and many of the roads that it is not routing you on disappear altogether. On the printed map, the Google recommended route looked like a little cow path, and parts of it looked like a malaria germ. Squirrel pointed out another way on the map that looked like it was all interstate and four-lane divided highway.

Yesterday, driving from Darlington to Charlotte, we had a lot of stop and go and city/suburb type traffic light stuff. I was tired of that for a couple of reasons. One of them was the heat. The hemi coop has a single layer sheet aluminum floor and firewall, with no padding, insulation, carpet, or anything like that. As long as we were moving down the road with the windows open, it was reasonably comfortable inside. But when we had to sit there lined up in traffic, separated from the hot pavement and the hot exhaust system by just a layer of .032 aluminum, my feet were baking. The other thing is the McLeod soft lock clutch. It has an unsprung hub, and a solid sintered iron disc. When you dump the clutch at high rpm on the race track, it slips a little bit at first to cushion the drive train. But at low rpm leaving a stoplight on the street, it’s kind of like an on/off switch. And something in my throttle linkage slipped on the road trip as well, ramping the idle RPM up to about 1700. I didn’t feel like getting out and fixing it in the middle of the heat, humidity, and busy traffic. I figured I’d do it at the hotel after I’d had a chance to cool off. So anyway, the 1700 RPM idle and the on/off switch clutch made driving in traffic a pain.

All of that considered, Hemi Squirrels suggestion of taking the longer, interstate route rather than the windy little two-lane cow path sounded like the perfect plan!
But first we had to go visit the mandatory checkpoint, Pat Musi racing. I was actually looking forward to that, some free food and refreshments would taste good right about now. Plus I needed to pick up some Valvoline VR-1 racing oil and I figured they would probably have some. After finishing the exhaust gasket swap and getting everything packed up we made the 30 mile trip to the checkpoint.

Greeted by a full parking lot at Musi's, I found a spot along the edge of the property, next to the neighbors retaining wall and parked there hoping that nobody would object. Soon afterward, Billy's Plymouth found a spot right behind me. I decided to make a beeline for the chow line 1st, then decide if we wanted to take any time to tour the shop. Probably not. Eat and run, beat the rain! I went inside and started searching for the food, but unfortunately it didn't exist. It was hard to find any staff to question about it, but finally I found a guy who said the food was long gone, we were too late. And they didn't have any Valvoline VR-1 racing oil that I needed either. Moseying outside, there were tons of other DW cars there, jamming the parking lot. There was a guy using a concrete pad out behind to swap a transmission, there was a couple cars in the shop, and various wrench fests scattered throughout the premises. Including Hemi Squirrel with the valve covers off. Apparently, the Hemi was getting noisy, and he found that the lash had opened up significantly. uh-oh...

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Re: 2018 Drag Week story, Hemi Joel version [Re: JERICOGTX] #2849987
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I heard his name over the p.a., and wondered if that was the Jay Brown I had known. I found him in the pits, we talked about old times, he explained Drag Week to me, I told him what I had been up to in FAST racing. We exchanged numbers and hung out together a bit. He lives about 20 miles away from me. Then the drag week trunk monkey thing started in 07.

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