Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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No doubt the mineshaft air helped to make the mph, but the cool track doesn't do a lot for traction. It's always a balancing act on skinnies. I believe D/A was around 2000 Doug Thought they were racing in Martin Michigan. Temps were in the mid 30's overnight and in the low 40's for most of the day here. Didn't realize this was in Maryland. My mistake on the mineshaft air then.
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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To anyone in the know ....is there a cut-off for the years allowed in this class? 144 mph is mind boggling hell my car has been a bests of 142 and that's with aluminum heads and a Dominator. 55-79
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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10/25/20 03:09 PM
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9.824 @ 144.0
Congrats to Dave Dudek and Rick Mahoney Excellent job!! 9.776 ...... sweet
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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Congrats to Dave and Rick! That is an awesome performance from the HemiCuda. Long live Hemi power.
To answer a couple of questions, brake up grades are allowed, in the name of safety. Rick Mahoney owns the Hemi Cuda, and Dave Dudek is doing the driving.
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That is incredible! Definitely making a LOT of power!
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events.
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. That's what we were talking about at work this morning. I get ported heads, big compression and big cubes but it all has to suck through the tiny straw of an intake and carbs!
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. That's what we were talking about at work this morning. I get ported heads, big compression and big cubes but it all has to suck through the tiny straw of an intake and carbs! I know, must be some serious modifications to the intake and exhaust manifolds
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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Seems like I recall on one of his old motors they cut open the intake, milled out a bunch of material, did a lot of welding, and basically made it a big single plane?
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. That's what we were talking about at work this morning. I get ported heads, big compression and big cubes but it all has to suck through the tiny straw of an intake and carbs! I know, must be some serious modifications to the intake and exhaust manifolds And it has to exhaust through a two and a half inch exhaust system with exits in the stock locations, through mufflers that sound stock at idle.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. Closer to 1000 than 800.
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. I am guessing that is more than 900 probably close to 1000HP and probably not much over 500 inches - There is no limit on cams or engine size. What is done to those cars is unbelievable every thing is thought out - every ounce is removed that can be - The engines are extremely trick and they are not afraid to turn some RPM with them
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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That’s got to be close to 800hp through stock intake, carbs and manifolds . How is that even possible? Are they still limited in the “sound” or can they go nuts on cams ? Would love to see one of these events. I am guessing that is more than 900 probably close to 1000HP and probably not much over 500 inches - There is no limit on cams or engine size. What is done to those cars is unbelievable every thing is thought out - every ounce is removed that can be - The engines are extremely trick and they are not afraid to turn some RPM with them Actually, there is a 560 cubic inch limit on everything except Ford 385 series Lima motors can go to 620. Camshaft must produce a correct stock sound at idle.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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I’d be curious to know what the cam specs might look like in an engine like that.
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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I’d be curious to know what the cam specs might look like in an engine like that. 900 lift roller
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Re: 144.00 mph in FAST
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I’d be curious to know what the cam specs might look like in an engine like that. I have a feeling that the cam specs only tell you a small part of the story. I'm not up to date on FAST engine builds but the little bit I played around with this stuff years ago taught me that the relationship between overlap and low lift flow was really important. My guess is that the heads have been modified to reduce low lift flow which would then allow more overlap to be used. That was the trend a few years past, not sure if they are still on that track or if they have gone a different route. I think it gets extra tricky with Hemi heads. These guys are making NHRA super stock type of power levels but with a lot more restrictions. Of course, they do have more inches and more compression but no headers and no billet cross ram intakes. Very impressive. Can't even comprehend the amount of work that goes into something like that. Be funny to watch one of these cars pull into the NHRA stock lanes sometimes. They look a lot more stock than any of the NHRA stockers.
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