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Pistons, what brand, what options? #2830144
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I have my name on a World aluminum block, and may buy new pistons to best match the combo. I talked to Ross pistons today and got some ideas. For sure what i want is .043 , .043, 3mm low tension rings, gas ports and skirt coatings. Ed at Ross suggested .200 wall pins from tool steel. This will be the same configuration, 550 cubes, 15/1 compression.
What piston brands are good, and any options i should consider?


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Re: Pistons, what brand, what options? [Re: gregsdart] #2830154
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I like the last 10 or so sets of Ross pistons I’ve seen. They are at least as good as anything else, and better than a bunch of stuff.

Before I picked a ring pack, I’d call Total Seal and ask THEM what they think you should run for rings. IMO, and .043/.043 ring pack is a bit thick, even on a bracket engine. I’d let them pick the ring pack and rings.


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I would call Diamond and have a convo with Ron--He's a Mopar guy and has good advice and experience. Or I see Mahle Motorsports now has a Custom department which I am looking forward to using. J.Rob




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Re: Pistons, what brand, what options? [Re: gregsdart] #2830225
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You might consider Gibtec in Denver. They are part of V Gaines' Western Motorsports group in Denver. The group includes Winberg Cranks, GRP Rods, etc.

You also might want to consider Total Seals "gas ported rings". Dyno tests show they can make more power than gas ports.

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https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60301

Call Rebco in Wichita, KS and see what they recommend.

They do pistons for a lot of high end racers.

REBCO MACHINE, INC.
1100 W. 37TH STREET N.
WICHITA, KANSAS 67204

Phone 316-440-2828
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Email ERICHENKE@REBCOMACHINE.KSCOXMAIL.com

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Re: Pistons, what brand, what options? [Re: gregsdart] #2830269
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Greg, I would call Icon pistons. They have the best slipper design in the business. Plus you can get the line to line slipper coating. Call 775-882-78790 and ext. 159 ask for Glen. They have been making pistons since 1922

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Originally Posted by merpar
Greg, I would call Icon pistons. They have the best slipper design in the business


Not even close

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I'd talk with Todd. You are already getting the block from him. He won't steer you wrong. He is doing my KB wedge and going with Diamond pistons on my build. I have heard that many of the piston suppliers are way behind due to the shut down.


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Work with your engine builder. Typically it comes down to who he has a good relationship with. There are a lot of little details that need to be talked over so people tend to work with the same people over time. Any of the good piston vendors can build what you want, it is the relationship that seals the deal.

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Originally Posted by cudatom
I'd talk with Todd. You are already getting the block from him. He won't steer you wrong. He is doing my KB wedge and going with Diamond pistons on my build. I have heard that many of the piston suppliers are way behind due to the shut down.

iagree


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Not even close??

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I have used Ross, Diamond, JE, and the Weisco's in my engine now have been to hell and back.

Never had any problems.


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Re: Pistons, what brand, what options? [Re: gregsdart] #2830913
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Greg, I used Diamond pistons and they have a dome shaped to match the Indy 440-1 heads which might help in a high compression build... Work good for me!

Good Luck, Arnie


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A household name at one of the big engine parts companies told me that Ross makes a lot of pistons for some of the other piston companies, he made me promise not to say he said it.

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Originally Posted by Scully
A household name at one of the big engine parts companies told me that Ross makes a lot of pistons for some of the other piston companies, he made me promise not to say he said it.


LOL...glad you can keep a secret!!!!!


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: Pistons, what brand, what options? [Re: merpar] #2831072
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Originally Posted by merpar
Not even close??


Let's see a picture of the "best in the business" slipper style piston, then I'll show you mine.

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Originally Posted by LSP
Originally Posted by merpar
Not even close??


Let's see a picture of the "best in the business" slipper style piston, then I'll show you mine.

OMG, another mine is better than yours whistling
I've used a bunch of different piston makers in my long engine building and racing career, some where not as good as others but I know now to you buy a custom race piston for a race motor and not to buy a expensive race piston for a street and strip motor tsk twocents
I placed a order for a set of Probe shelf pistons for a pump gas RB motor with the Summit several years back, Summit racing side told me they would be drop shipped directly to me in 3 to 6 weeks. 10 months later I called Probe and ended up talking to another holding company who had bought them out along with several other SO CA piston companies, I got them several weeks later and they where made by Auto Tec shock
I've had really good luck with Icon on pump gas street motors up Quality product at a reasonable price boogie


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He said "best in the business", I'd like to see it is all

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Originally Posted by LSP
He said "best in the business", I'd like to see it is all

I did not key on that or realized that had been said blush


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I prefer CP personally, but have a relationship there too. I have used Diamond and Ross in the past. Use Rebco for some stuff, usually changes or further profiling made after manufacture. Yes even with molds or digitized chambers sometimes stuff changes slightly and needs addressed. But we are talking ultra high compression stuff. Been to the Gibtec facility and it is very nice and they do a fair number of billets for Pro Stock and Pro Stock bike.


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