I’ve done two on 440’s, one in the 90’s, a Mopar Performance seal, and another in the 00’s, a Superformance orange seal. Neither leaked.

I've been doing it that way since about 1975.

RTV cures from exposure to moisture, inserting a wet pipe-cleaner into the wet RTV not only promotes fast cure but also expands the RTV into every corner of the groove.

Great feedback so far guys. Keep the tips coming, they are very useful. Thanks!!!

there was a thread recently that showed a billet retainer modified to resemble the engine side of the factory retainer.
this acted as a deflector, throwing the oil back toward the pan.
i'm too stupid to know when that was, or if i did remember, i couldn't link to it.
maybe someone remembers this ?
help out an old doofus with "oldtimers" and CRS please.

Not talking about the seal just the retainer, once oil is on the side pieces they expand tight, rtv in the corners and bottom, Vaseline on the crank where the seal rides

Here's mine:

that's the picture !
thank you sir !

Interesting, I have an old pan from a 71 New Yorker with a 375 horse 440
that has a baffle at the back of the pan, "U" shaped to help keep oil off the seal.

I wonder why that wasn't used on other hipo cars, or was it??

Joe

that's interesting.
i have never seen anything like that.
do you, by chance, have any pics of that pan ?

Moparx, send me an email, jlatessa@roadrunner.com
and I'll attach the pic to you.

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Joe

I have owned and used several of those type pans also I think Mopar started using them in 1971 on the C body cars and maybe in the BB Cordoba also later

I think when I remove the pan on one of our cars, I may cut out that baffle and attach it to the 6 Qt. pan.

the sump baffle is the best I've seen on a stock pan too.

Joe

Why not build a duplicate of that rear baffle and use it instead of ruining the stock pan
How about you making a crankshaft scraper for the passenger side of the block now to use also

OK, I knew someone would suggest that, I agree.
As far as a scraper for our cars, I'm not sure we would benefit much as they both shift below 6000.

I'll take some measurements and I know someone who waterjets, so maybe I can make a few.

Joe

As an aside, it looks like the baffles are brazed in, right?

Here's a pic of the 187 pan...Joe

Looks like the main baffle is spotwelded, but the
rear baffle brazed, maybe not enough flange or room

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You're welcome

How has it worked out for you in all that time?

THANKS for the pic Joe !
in all my years, i have never seen a 187 pan like that !

That is not a stock 187 pan
Someone with good skill added all of those hand made pieces
I have used many of those stock pans that I added front and rear baffles along with the stock Mopar windage trays and home made crankshaft scrapers to to use in 1967 to 1976 A body cars with BB Mopar motors in them for street and strip use with good results
Mine didn't look as good as that one though