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Foam in fuel cell? #2825275
09/26/20 11:50 AM
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I have a 10 gal aluminum fuel cell (trunk-mounted, with sealed sheet metal firewall to the passenger compartment).
It has large blocks of foam inside.

I'm wondering how much gas do these blocks displace? It doesn't seem to hold 10 gallons although measuring the cell and converting to gallons says it should.
Also, what is the purpose of the blocks - to control fuel splashing or something else? work

Edit: I've answered my own question. https://buildingspeed.org/2013/04/26/why-you-dont-mess-with-fuel-cell-foam/

Guess it will stay. Maybe I'll change to a 15 or 20 gal. cell... that 451 is thirsty! wink

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: DrCharles] #2825283
09/26/20 12:12 PM
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Now I get it and here I thought it was just a slosh baffle,

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Foam in a fuel cell prevents a concentration of the fuel vapor plus air mixture, which significantly reduces the probability that the fuel cell will explode in case of a fire. Reducing the amount of foam in a fuel cell, either by not putting it in to the eight-inch mandated height, or by carving out hollows in the interior of the foam, creates a very highly flammable pocket of fuel vapor and a major safety hazard.

While manipulating the foam might give you an advantage in terms of being able to fit more fuel into the tank, it creates a major, major safety hazard by making the fuel cell more likely to explode in case of an accident. While people talk about messing with the fuel being a major no-no, the big thing here is really the safety aspects
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Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: A12] #2825325
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On the other hand, tens of millions of cars are made each year without foam in their tanks... and they very rarely explode, except in the movies work

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: DrCharles] #2825355
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Make sure your foam is compatible with the gas your using. Some of those race fuel cells come with foam that is intended for race fuel, and not ethanol blended pump gas.

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: Neil] #2825358
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Good advice... I always run alcohol-free premium though up (also in my lawn mower and other small engines).

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: DrCharles] #2825401
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The foam blocks are placed in there to keep/contain fuel in the cell in the event that a hole is punctured into the fuel cell. .should that happen , it will help hold the fuel so that it does not just pour out in a large pool all at once . they do not displace that much volume of fuel.... if you get cheap foam , you will learn how frustrating it can be to get the dry rotted pieces out of your fuel system........

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: ek3] #2825442
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My cell already does have foam, and it appears to be holding up well for some years. I was just wondering whether to remove it.
Prevailing opinion seems to be that the slight loss of volume is worth it for the protection.

Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: DrCharles] #2825448
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https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Fuel-Cell-Anti-Slosh-Safety-Foam-Tank-Baffle-Inserts-14x4x6-Each,52163.html


3%, if it's full of this style foam, you'll be able to hold 9.7gal.

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Re: Foam in fuel cell? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2825472
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My wood chipper has foam in it. It's the first time I've seen it. My biggest worry is does that stuff break down over time and start dragging little chunks thru the fuel system? I guess if it does it'll be noticable pretty quick when the filter starts clogging up.







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