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Have you priced building materials lately ? #2812657
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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: bigdad] #2812676
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Yep, huge price increases since June. I design roof trusses and our prices have skyrocketed. Roof sheathing is crazy. Some places won't even sell it to you if you aren't a regular customer. Not enough to go around. The derecho here two weeks ago isn't helping matters either.

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And that's if you can find them in the first place.

We're in the midst of a pretty extensive remodel right now. Materials costs have gone way up, and there are delays with our flooring, appliances, furniture, railings, and trim. Our contractor said it's good that we started when we did (end of June), because now lumber (especially treated lumber), plumbing, and electrical supplies are getting scarce.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: not_a_charger] #2812679
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When everything was shut down, lots of people started remodeling their decks. Composite decking is taking awhile to get now too.

Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: burdar] #2812682
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Yep. I was at a local supply house, and there were 2 customers there, picking over the scrap/irregular/extra pile of composite.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: bigdad] #2812690
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It is World market for materials. I believe we need to get ready for this as a new normal.

Material costs did not go down in the recession a dozen years ago. They have gone up since. Commodities do not recognize global borders, they follow the cash.

At the top end of the market it will make no difference. In the bottom 1/2 of the market it is going to have a great effect.

One of the challenges coming up is all the people that have built McMansions. Many of these places will have differed maintenance issues. Given the size of many of them, the average homeowner can not take care of them . They need a team sized care group. Just wait until they are 30 years old. This will not be a pretty sight.

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The BLM used to run a lot of sawmills to help deal with the forest overgrowth and its now a very low number and I seen it mentioned the other day and they said it would not be cost effective to produce lumber.. Id like to see how they came to that conclusion.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: Redbird] #2812696
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Originally Posted by Redbird
It is World market for materials. I believe we need to get ready for this as a new normal.

Material costs did not go down in the recession a dozen years ago. They have gone up since. Commodities do not recognize global borders, they follow the cash.

At the top end of the market it will make no difference. In the bottom 1/2 of the market it is going to have a great effect.

One of the challenges coming up is all the people that have built McMansions. Many of these places will have differed maintenance issues. Given the size of many of them, the average homeowner can not take care of them . They need a team sized care group. Just wait until they are 30 years old. This will not be a pretty sight.


McMansion development across the street from my development was built in 1994, finished sometime in 1998-99. Starting to see those exact same issues over there, and those issues are no doubt compounded by all of the foreclosures that happened there when the bubble burst in 08.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: bigdad] #2812724
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April 2018 I priced a FG Impact prehung door post Irma from Home Depot at $1200 less a 15% discount. Priced same door/manufacturer 3 weeks ago, is now $1850, no discount.
2 weeks ago I priced 11 typical Vinyl Impact windows installed, they gave me a price of $28K, but they would give me a discount. eek


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: not_a_charger] #2812734
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I am constantly appalled at the prices of even basic building materials... 2x4's (really 1-1/2x3-1/2 of course), a sheet of plywood, etc.

Of course it's expensive, that stuff doesn't grow on trees... oh wait whistling

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Must depend on where you live. Bought a winter condo 2.5 yrs ago and have been remodeling it a room at a time since.

This summer I started helping my son remodel a home that he and his fiance purchased. Kitchen, two bathrooms, plumbing and electrical upgrades. I looked at some receipts from my condo vs his recent purchases and notice that drywall was actually cheaper now than 2 yrs ago. Plumbing materials and fixtures are min higher. Cabinets were the same price. The supply houses by me are well stocked and that is in both Ohio and Florida.

Pretty common after a large scale weather event for prices to increase as there are not enough materials to go around for a period of time. Saw this throughout the US when I worked catastrophe claims for an insurance company.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: bigdad] #2812747
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I tried to buy a couple of 2x6 the other day for a small project and the local lumber yard said "all out". Don't know when we'll get more. A few miles up the road the next lumber yard had a stack of them. So hit or miss around here.

Kind of funny to run out of lumber in Oregon! I have about 100 big fir trees on my property. Most of them are in the 18 inch diameter range but the big boys are close to 36 inch diameter. If I had a sawmill I could make some serious lumber from those trees.

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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: AndyF] #2812793
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Have you priced new homes lately

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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: bee1971] #2812805
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Originally Posted by bee1971
Have you priced new homes lately

YIKES

Around here a brick ranch will only stay on the market for a few hours to a few days. People are very ready to pay asking price and more. My son just sold a house that was on the market for less than a week and it was priced at 479k. It is crazy around here right now with both building materials and real estate. He is planning on building a house this year and the cost has already gone up 15% in one month. Ouch!


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: dfsmopars] #2812853
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Originally Posted by dfsmopars
Originally Posted by bee1971
Have you priced new homes lately

YIKES

Around here a brick ranch will only stay on the market for a few hours to a few days. People are very ready to pay asking price and more. My son just sold a house that was on the market for less than a week and it was priced at 479k. It is crazy around here right now with both building materials and real estate. He is planning on building a house this year and the cost has already gone up 15% in one month. Ouch!


Yep! Stuff sells in hours around here. My buddy is an agent.....can't find $250k houses to sell. He listed a $300k ranch on a postage stamp lot last Sat morning.....had an accepted offer by noon. I live in a subdivision of 2000 sq ft homes on acre lots. Most are in the $250k range.....IF one goes on the market...it's gone before they get the sign up.....and usually for over asking price.....crazy!!

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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: Dcuda69] #2812880
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The price of building lumber here has gone crazy, and clear pine (or any clear softwood) is even crazier. I bought a small load of clear pine for the new porch pillars and each had a tag stating they were from...New Zealand. New Zealand! No wonder it's expensive! But, most mills here are running at partial capacity, and totally underestimated the market, figuring the fake-demic would keep people home and building demands low. So, now I have to buy expensive lumber imported from NZ.

And if you want a REAL shock for wood prices - my dad restores old wood boats. Select hardwoods and marine-grade plys are way expensive. Drives home the addage...measure 7 times, cut once and hope!

Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: Jer] #2813024
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Cost of lumber is up 164% since April 1 adding $14,000 to the cost of an average new home. Up 15% in just the last week. Lots of factors causing the shortage and price increase. Canada closed it's border to the US, tariffs on lumber imports and the latest price increase is due to the devaluation of the dollar.

There is a cost to printing trillions of new money out of thin air. Gold isn't $2,000 an once because it suddenly became more valuable it's because the dollar lost value.

Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: second 70] #2813048
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I've been calling some of the build-on-site shed companies to throw up an 8x16 in my backyard and nobody is returning calls or emails. Either they are super super busy or their pricing is upside down right now.


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Re: Have you priced building materials lately ? [Re: burdar] #2813049
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The woodland owner that borders my farm, and has a major tree harvest. They are transporting ash logs at full length- not cut to 12 or 16 foot. They are taken to the mill, and loaded into shipping containers about 80 feet long for transport to China.

I need my outdoor living area built, which includes a balcony. I learned yesterday that lumber is getting up there to make the composite the more sensible way to go. Neighbor had a concrete floor poured last month. he mentioned that concrete has really jumped in price.


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They've said a lot of it is because people are or were doing all sorts of projects while they were stuck at home.
Then when you think of it less employees at the mills and doing the work for the same reasons, the trucking issues, the border issues etc... and how much of the "new" wood has hit the market yet. When I was at home depot the other day some racks of wood didn't even have prices on them.
I bought a new tin shed, I usually wait on buying materials until I need it to avoid the warping problem. I also planned on building a loft over my cars. Guess I'll look at other alternatives.

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