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The current collector market #2810293
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Looking for input on what you all think the collector market is looking like with this covid-19 pandemic going on, and after it is over? Seems a lot of cars for sale on here have been reduced in price with no sale..... tough times for sure.

Re: The current collector market [Re: Since1822] #2810323
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Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.

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Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


I couldn't agree more. Seems to be that the market is slipping pretty quickly and going soft. Will be interesting to see where it is a year from now. Sad to see, but I feel like it is happening quickly.

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Originally Posted by Since1822
Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


I couldn't agree more. Seems to be that the market is slipping pretty quickly and going soft. Will be interesting to see where it is a year from now. Sad to see, but I feel like it is happening quickly.
It is sad to see because it also figures to reduce the manufacturers of replacement parts


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Re: The current collector market [Re: Neil] #2810355
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Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


That's pretty accurate. I see the same thing down here in Florida. The situation going on opens up buying opportunities for those who couldn't get in before. The market is going to be like this for a while.
That muscle car that was $100,000, probably now can be had for $50,000.

Re: The current collector market [Re: larrymopar360] #2810360
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I think this is like so many things in life, it depends. IMHO, the market for the '50's cars is dying with the exception of some flagships like the 300C/D and "Christine". The early '60's cars are on death's door, even the Max Wedges are losing their allure. The late 60's have a better chance but even these are going to survive as resto-mods. '70's? After about '75 there never was much interest, face it the Warlock and the Lil' Red Express are the most exciting things to come from that era.

What is going to survive, any winged car because it's strange. And any 2nd generation Charger along with some of the late '60's/early '70's B-bodies but I predict that there will be a demand for rolling chassis but not restorations. That resto-mod thing again that the youngsters want. Just my opinion. shruggy


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Re: The current collector market [Re: GMP440] #2810369
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Last year at Chryslers at Carlisle I had a lengthy talk with a large car collector and ask him his thoughts on the future of the collector cars. He said because of numerous reasons some already talked about here that in 15 years the cars will be worth almost nothing compared to what they once were bringing. He has since sold off alot of his Hemi cars so I guess he sold when the going was good. I thing for sure there were alot of cars out there that were just to over priced to begin with and maybe now there bringing what they should have brought all along!

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I Followed this same trend with the restored model A's, V8 Fords etc. The restored cars that were sought after fell by the wayside as the new generation wanted the cars but with modern drivelines A/C etc.
When the restored cars were worth a bundle the "street rods /modified ones" were worth 1/3 as much. As the older guys started dying off the "Street rods" overtook the restored ones value wise by leaps and bounds. I believe a lot of it had to do with who had the disposable income, it typically wasn't the 30 year old it was the 60 year old.
I believe the same will happen with the 60'-70's cars save for possibly a few real rare ones like a Boos 429 or original Cobra> We are already seeing the "Resto Mod's" going through the roof price wise. History repeats itself and I do not believe this is going to be an exception. twocents beer

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Some day those riced out civic coupes with the single wiper mod will be the high dollar in demand car. Better load up on them now to beat the craze and make some money off it for a change puke

Re: The current collector market [Re: 5thAve] #2810449
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Restomod for me! I'd much rather have a late 60s or early 70s with a good body and a modern drivetrain, modern steering and handling, and modern brakes then anything all original. I was there in the 70s (i'm 63 years old) and drove that stuff back then, and I was modernizing brakes and drivetrain even back then.

I think the new Challengers will kill any of the 70s E body cars unless they are the top of the line cars, if they haven't already.
I think the exotic cars have another 10 or 15 years (unless the do away with gas) before the market is just no longer there. Prices of anything less then top of the line, or simply strange factory offerings will continue to drop.

If your "investing" in any car these days, it better be for your enjoyment, or I suspect your not going to be happy with your return on the investment. Might be OK for a short term, maybe a couple years, but long term isn't going to work. Gene

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I think the rare 1 of 10 type musclecars that are irreplaceable will be ok, or at least not decline as much as time goes on.

To me the pro-touring thing needs a breath of fresh air. It's gone from drivetrain upgrades, which are totally ok by me, to strange styling bolt-ons with air dams and all sorts of useless stuff. I see those as trendy and trends come and go. Just hope your on the right side of however that plays out.

Re: The current collector market [Re: poorboy] #2810475
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Everything is changing. Cars were a symbol of freedom for young people and a statement, now they have cell phones. Young people who are into cars like new muscle except the few straggler hipsters who think driving an old car is cool. Old farts don't want to be bothered anymore and also are into new muscle, creature comforts and dealership mechanics. There are still some old diehards but we are between 50 and 75 so it's slowing and will end at some point, and the less amount of people interested in drum brakes, manual steering and a car not as fast as a new Honda will bring the values down with them.


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Originally Posted by GMP440
Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


That's pretty accurate. I see the same thing down here in Florida. The situation going on opens up buying opportunities for those who couldn't get in before. The market is going to be like this for a while.
That muscle car that was $100,000, probably now can be had for $50,000.


Any examples of these $100k cars that are available for $50k?

Dave

Re: The current collector market [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #2810691
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I don't necessarily buy into the doom and gloom for the market. I'm seeing run of the mill A-bodies go for several thousand when a few years ago they were $2k cars.

BUT, I want those of you in my age bracket (I'm 60) to make an observation. Up and down the street you live on and in your neighborhood, how many classic cars are there? I think in my neighborhood there's me and a guy (if he's still one street over) with a 65-ish Mustang. Used to be a guy up the street with a 50s pickup. I think he moved. The point is that when we young a lot of us were into these cars on some level. MOST of the guys I knew with 60s muscle cars back then don't have one anymore. We were ALWAYS a minority.

Guys with big collections that are getting on in age are thinking about getting out if there is nobody to leave them to. I get that and some really special cars will hit the market, but that has always happened. Then, there's guys like Wade Ogle (who I would guess to be in his 40s) with a very nice collection. My younger son has his Dart, has built a '65 Mustang, and works with a bunch of guys in his age range who are into old cars (but don't have his skills).

This subject comes up more than once a year and it's always the same. The hobby will be alive until we can't buy gasoline and oil anymore (yeah, it could happen, but not likely in our lifetimes).

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I has a prediction 30 years ago, that Model A cars would be fire sale prices in 15 years. Prices on them are holding well.


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Yep......people were also predicting 10 years ago that Tri Five chevys would be cheap very soon. Well, “very soon” doesn’t seem to have arrived yet.

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Originally Posted by 69_SIX_PACK
Originally Posted by GMP440
Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


That's pretty accurate. I see the same thing down here in Florida. The situation going on opens up buying opportunities for those who couldn't get in before. The market is going to be like this for a while.
That muscle car that was $100,000, probably now can be had for $50,000.


Any examples of these $100k cars that are available for $50k?

Dave


Probably wouldn't have to look very far, asking price and transaction price are two very different numbers for muscle cars right now I assume. But who's going to admit they accepted 50%...

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Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk


This subject comes up more than once a year and it's always the same. The hobby will be alive until we can't buy gasoline and oil anymore (yeah, it could happen, but not likely in our lifetimes).



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Originally Posted by 69_SIX_PACK
Originally Posted by GMP440
Originally Posted by Neil
Virus or not the Boomer's slow exit from the car hobby will reduce prices. Just not enough young people out there into them to keep it going at the pace it once was. They didn't grow up with these cars so it's harder for them to see what all the excitement is about.

Go to the drag strip, swap meet, and car shows here and a good chunk of it is retirement aged people.


That's pretty accurate. I see the same thing down here in Florida. The situation going on opens up buying opportunities for those who couldn't get in before. The market is going to be like this for a while.
That muscle car that was $100,000, probably now can be had for $50,000.


Any examples of these $100k cars that are available for $50k?

Dave


There's a decent example at the top of the WIW section right how. 68 Hemi RR, sold for $110K at BJ in 2010 or 2012, sold for $66k in March at Meecum and just sold on E-Bay for $89.5K.

Re: The current collector market [Re: parksr5] #2810767
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the doom and gloom for the market and hobby has been predicted for well over the past 10-15 years and
IMO may have dropped to some degree but we are a long way from stock muscle cars for bargain basement prices .

And this is from someone who was / is in the market to buy and I sure wish those prices were now. If anything prices have creeped up a bit in the past year or so . At least for the cars Im looking at / interested in . That being a 66-67 or 69 Plymouth B body

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