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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2808659
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Originally Posted by 360view
USC researchers have found the likely order in which COVID-19 symptoms first appear:
fever,
cough,
muscle pain, and then
nausea, and/or vomiting,
and diarrhea.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-scientists-covid-symptoms.html


What happened to loss of smell/taste?

Seems like that would make the vomiting/diarrhea more tolerable? work


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Originally Posted by 360view
USC researchers have found the likely order in which COVID-19 symptoms first appear:
fever,
cough,
muscle pain, and then
nausea, and/or vomiting,
and diarrhea.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-scientists-covid-symptoms.html


What happened to loss of smell/taste?

Seems like that would make the vomiting/diarrhea more tolerable? work


I agree that the USC researchers should have commented on where in the timeline list loss of smell might be.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2808727
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Friday’s Wall Street Journal has a front page article titled

“A Pandemic Was Inevitable. Why Was No One Ready”

It is long at two full pages.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...-to-know-about/ss-BB17W417?ocid=msedgntp

Anxiety can cause a lot of the symptoms on this list. As hard as the media is working to scare everyone to death no wonder.

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Originally Posted by Neil


Hypochondria can cause a lot of the symptoms on this list. As hard as the media is working to scare everyone to death no wonder.




Fixed....

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Wall Street Journal has a very interesting article on Friday page A15 titled:

“The Treatment that Could Crush Covid”

about immune system components discovered 30 years ago called
“medicinal signaling cells”
MSC’s for short.

{I had never before heard of MSC}

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When a MSC detects an infection or an injury to those vessels, it transforms itself into a factory to recruit and pump out immune-modulating and vessel-repair agents.

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Obesity may increase risk of dying from COVID-19, especially in younger men

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-obesity-dying-covid-younger-men.html

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They found that patients in the highest weight group were four times as likely to die within 21 days of being diagnosed with COVID-19 as those in the normal weight group. Men and those younger than 60 years who had a high body weight were at particularly high risk for death

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Covid-19 vaccines will be free for all Americans

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-covid-vaccine-free-americans.html

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Mexico will continue to officially keep their borders with USA closed ......except for essential travel

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-mexico-border-non-essential.html

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Mexico has reported about 500,000 confirmed COVID-19 infections and about 55,000 deaths,
both considered to be significant undercounts due to very limited testing.

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After saying incubation period for Covid-19 is 4 to 5 days,
more data leads National Institutes of Health (NIH) researchers
to lengthen it to 7 to 8 days.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...ubation-period-to-7-7-days#Recall-theory

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For 10% of people, the incubation period was longer than 2 weeks (14.28 days),
and in 1% of cases, the estimated incubation period was more than 20 days.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2809046
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Hey 360....You seem obsessed with this scamdemic. Ever thought of taking up a different hobby? Like maybe Mopars or something ?

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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Hey 360....You seem obsessed with this scamdemic. Ever thought of taking up a different hobby? Like maybe Mopars or something ?
boogie


They're doing an admirable job of posting subject/info matters. I'm sure it saves others the time of searching it out. Read it or don't. But there sure is ALOT out there about this dilemma & nothing wrong with being TOO Informed these days.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Obesity may increase risk of dying from COVID-19, especially in younger men
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-obesity-dying-covid-younger-men.html
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They found that patients in the highest weight group were four times as likely to die within 21 days of being diagnosed with COVID-19 as those in the normal weight group. Men and those younger than 60 years who had a high body weight were at particularly high risk for death
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Shucks: it was obvious to me months back about obesity & covid deaths. Guess it "takes" a medical journal article to "confirm" it. Guess covid just shortened the "time line" for those in that group.

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Ever heard of "Information Overload" ?
It is quite possible to bury a person with truckloads of information slamming into you full throttle every minute.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Covid-19 vaccines will be free for all Americans

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-covid-vaccine-free-americans.html


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Whoa ! Like to see the bill the pharmas give for 300+million X $$/dose. No big deal, what's another trillion or so haha

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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Ever heard of "Information Overload" ?
It is quite possible to bury a person with truckloads of information slamming into you full throttle every minute.


Yea. I've seen that before. and the strangest thing, they still deny it without offering convincing evidence in their denial. eyes


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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Hey 360....You seem obsessed with this scamdemic. Ever thought of taking up a different hobby? Like maybe Mopars or something ?

boogie


As I posted long ago in this thread, I have been reading the medical abstracts about Dementia for over 20 years.
Now I just read the abstracts about Dementia AND coronaviruses.
I seldom spend more than one hour doing both, including copying the links to this thread.

The medical abstracts concentrate the long research papers once.
Then I try to concentrate it for this thread.
Here you are reading less than 2% of the total words.

I do not think that pandemics are a scam.
As a young child I was impressed that my grandfather took the time to pass on to me what he saw happen in 1917-1919.

There are ways to correctly restore an old vehicle and certainly things to avoid doing in restorations.

This pandemic has certainly seen its share of “bondo bonkers” behavior.

The pandemic of 1917-1919 was handled even WORSE by the USA government.

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U Chicago says existing drug
Ebselen
may help against Covid-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-preexisting-drug-covid-.html

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A pharmaceutical drug that shows promise as a weapon against Mpro is Ebselen. Ebselen is a chemical compound with anti-viral, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidative, bactericidal, and cell-protective properties. Ebselen is used to treat multiple diseases, including bipolar disorders and hearing loss. In combination with silver, Ebselen treats five clinically difficult-to-manage antibiotic-resistant Gram-negative bacteria. Several clinical trials have proven its safety for use in humans.

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U Texas say some antibody tests for Covid-19 detect the wrong antibody to predict future immunity

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-frequently-serology-antibodies-reinfection-covid-.html

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Results showed that 3% of healthy and non-COVID-19 samples collected during the pandemic in Houston were positive for the N-protein antibody, but only 1.6% of those had the S-RBD antibody. Of samples with the S-RBD antibody, 86% had neutralizing capacity—meaning they could prevent reinfection of COVID-19, but only 74% of samples with N-protein had neutralizing capacity. When positive for both, 96.5% exhibited neutralizing capacity.

"These findings suggest that detection of N-protein binding antibodies does not always correlate with presence of S-RBD neutralizing antibodies, and that the presence of the S-RBD antibody is the best indicator of any potential protection against reinfection," said senior author Raghu Kalluri, M.D., Ph.D., professor and chair of Cancer Biology. "We caution against the extensive use of N-protein based serology testing for determination of potential COVID-19 immunity, and we believe that accurate and reliable S-RBD serological testing is needed to carefully identify individuals with neutralizing antibodies in order to help advance recovery efforts around the globe."

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T-cells are not detected by antibody tests either

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U Alabama and Polish make claim that
Covid-19 is more deadly than “common cold coronaviruses”
because Covid-19 can “sponge up micro RNA that human cells need”

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-covid-virus-pathogenic-depletes-specific.html

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Human microRNAs, or miRNAs, are short, non-coding RNAs with about 22 bases. They act to regulate gene expression by their complementary pairing with specific messenger RNAs of the cell. That pairing silences the messenger RNA, preventing it from being translated into a protein. Thus, miRNAs are a fine-tuned controller of cell metabolism or the cell's response to stress and adverse challenges, like infection by a virus.

The miRNAs are only about 0.01 percent of total human cell and tissue RNA, while replicating viral RNA of a virus like the COVID-19 virus may reach 50 percent of the total cellular RNA. So, the UAB and Polish researchers say, if the COVID-19 virus has binding sites for specific miRNAs—and these sites are different from the binding sites for miRNAs found on coronaviruses that cause colds—the more pathogenic COVID-19 virus may selectively sponge up certain miRNAs to dysregulate the cell in ways that make it a dangerous human coronavirus.

The sponge idea is not novel. Viral RNA sponges have been shown capable of removing host miRNA by the Epstein-Barr virus, and sponge activity has also been shown for the herpes and hepatitis C viruses.

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