Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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i have quite a few TCS parts in both my transmissions. My street car has their Steel billet drum & alloy retainer with all the springs, a rear roller support & bolt-in sprag. While i was in the trans i also added the billet servos & 4.2 lever & hardened pump gears. My street engine has 645 rwhp & it takes a hammering at the street night drags, faster than a Hellcat. That sounds like a plan. I was coming up with the same parts list in my head as I was flipping thru their catalog.
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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I had A&A aluminum drum in my 1000lb/ft turbo car. Miles in the neighborhood of what you expect. I had the trans gone though by Rick at A&A after blowing up a rear end. Trans was about 4 seasons old when it was gone through. He warned me during the original build about wear in the sealing ring area of the drum with the combination of street driving and 180 psi line pressure. He was very surprised at how the drum looked after 4 years in the car. He asked about fluid change intervals and fluid type. I changed the fluid/filter seasonally and used the dacron((spelling?)) filter instead of the mesh screen that was included in the original build. I always ran Redline brand synthetic fluid for towing. Not their race fluid. Rick told me to keep doing what I was doing. The drum had no wear that would cause any issues. That was a long time ago. He was considering installing steel sealing surface rings in the aluminum drums back then. I don’t know if that ever happened. I can tell you with 100% confidence that you can use his aluminum drum without issue for what you described.
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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We were also skeptical of the billet aluminum drum on the street, so we opted for the billet steel drum, the super sprag, really deep pan, the 5 cluch deal and a few other parts, all spec'd from A&A, and ours has been awesome at over 700ft-lbs of torque. The only thing I have torched was a tail shaft governor...A&A makes a kit to eliminate that...I ended up swapping tail shfts...
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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I used TCI for the better prices for the steel drum,max lug pump gears and a few other items.I did buy the 5 pinion planet from A&A for $500. My transmission builder now uses the 6 pinion steel planet out of the Cummins trans,it cost under $60.I/m making north of 800 ft lbs and still pressing buttons!
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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08/09/20 01:00 PM
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We were also skeptical of the billet aluminum drum on the street, so we opted for the billet steel drum, the super sprag, really deep pan, the 5 cluch deal and a few other parts, all spec'd from A&A, and ours has been awesome at over 700ft-lbs of torque. The only thing I have torched was a tail shaft governor...A&A makes a kit to eliminate that...I ended up swapping tail shfts... Eliminating the governor makes sense. I thought about it last time I went thru the trans but I left it in place. I'll take it out next time around since I have a manual shift valve body.
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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08/09/20 01:31 PM
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That is an interesting tip. I hadn't heard of the $60 Cummins setup. I'll have to look into that. Thats what is in my a518
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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He warned me during the original build about wear in the sealing ring area of the drum with the combination of street driving and 180 psi line pressure. TCS has aluminum drums with a replaceable bronze "bushing" in the sealing ring area. I used one on my race car. But for a street car, I would just go with an all steel drum (for explosion safety). If you run those sealing rings that grip the drum and wear the drum support ring grooves (on the back of the pump), wear is not a problem. But for very high pressure using teflon sealing rings, they wear the drum surface rather than the support ring grooves.
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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That is an interesting tip. I hadn't heard of the $60 Cummins setup. I'll have to look into that. Make sure the output shaft splines have the same pressure angle as the planetary setup. They changed a few times over the years.
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Re: 727 parts for street/strip?
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That is an interesting tip. I hadn't heard of the $60 Cummins setup. I'll have to look into that. Make sure the output shaft splines have the same pressure angle as the planetary setup. They changed a few times over the years. Yeah, that is one thing that worries me about doing a rebuild myself. I don't know all the details on which parts changed over the years and things that fit together but aren't correct could easily trip me up.
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