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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: racerx] #2800463
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Originally Posted by racerx
Anyone ever tried the Moser fab housing 8.75?


You’ll just have a fancy looking 8.75.... that’ll still break

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2800464
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Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
I never found the need for them.. where a failure accures is the carrier.. thats why I went to
the alum MP carrier its much stronger with thu bolt for the caps that carrier dosent let the ring
and pinion separate like the stock one
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laugh2.... I’ve got picts on my phone that says otherwise! At least when the aluminum one lets go you get style points!

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: Neil] #2800528
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Originally Posted by Neil
I think if I were doing a back brace I would dimple die it too. Those do make metal quite a bit stiffer.


Well consider, 11g is a bit tough to dimple die, and IMO the housing is resisting two primary forces in the back brace area, torsion/twist, not sure how much dimple die would add to resist that, and that calculation is above my pay grade, and bending, from the forward thrust forces, which bends the center span of the housing rearward, or the opposite of the tire side of the spring pad(?) which is bending forward, meaning the back brace is mainly under tension, and adding dimple dies adds little stiffness/strength. Now if the brace was in compression, I agree, your suggestion would likely be beneficial. work


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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: jcc] #2800743
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Thank you to everyone for the info. It was helpful and informative. Kinda sucks as it’s friggin RIP to the wallet as funds are starting to get tighter (the grocery store chain I work for stopped ‘hero pay’ though we are now the most infected state and have higher work demands required for us). So from what I read, if it was abused in anyway, 8 3/4 would go to ‘rearend heaven’ and would just be better to upgrade to a different rear all together. What makes this even more RIP is that I can no longer use the rear swaybar I had for the rear and it was a modified factory unit and it won’t clear the DANA 60 (if I go that route) and may have to rethink leaf springs with Dr Diff relocation kit I had bought for my assembly. Gonna have to check my HP numbers and see if it’s still a ‘do or die’ with the rearend.

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: n20mstr] #2800887
07/25/20 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Here we go ........

9” or Dana 60 , or even Ford Explorer 8.8 , all better rear ends than 8 3/4

This will go on for days now ..... lmao


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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: n20mstr] #2805755
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by jerry9
all tese stories have me nervous taking my 8.75 to the track not running that much power only 520 hp 560 torque at the crank in a 3150 lb car people tell me if my tires hook the dif will break , guess the Dana is the only way to go for reliability . like you say py me now or pay more later . maybe i'll sell my 2 8.75 A body difs and have enough for the Dana .
interesting thread


Probably the best bang for the buck out there is the ford explorer (2000- 2006?) 8.8 rear. You can usually buy one from a junkyard for 100.00 to 300.00 . They usually have 4.10 gears with a somewhat decent posi unit, and factory disc brakes. My son bought one from a junkyard for 150.00. We put new perches on it, bolted it in and ran it......Stock axles and all, even left the junkyard fluid in it ! ! ! It literally has hundreds of passes on it , 11.50's to 10.90s in a 3200lb duster. Cant get much better than that. THen when you upgrade your power its not that big a deal to upgrade the 8.8 and there are a ton of aftermarket good parts for it, and its light and strong enough to handle 7 second HP.


Friend of mine put one of these 8.8" Explorer rearends under a Chevy S-10 Blazer that ran mid 5s in the 1/8 w/ a 496" BB Chevy on nitrous. Still had all the stock internals as far as I know. Never hurt it in several years of racing before he sold it.


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2805929
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What's the stock width on the 8.8? Is it close to 68 B-body?
Thanks

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: MoonshineMattK] #2806044
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Originally Posted by MoonshineMattK
What's the stock width on the 8.8? Is it close to 68 B-body?
Thanks


im pretty sure its 54" It fits in an A body pretty good, so it should fit a B body very nice


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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: n20mstr] #2806063
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Thank you

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: MoonshineMattK] #2806155
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The width is different depending on the vehicle it came out of scope


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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: Cab_Burge] #2806255
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Guess I didn't specify but was referring to the Explorer axles mentioned in this thread. Need to find one cheep or it wont matter anyway.

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: MoonshineMattK] #2806467
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Do any of you guys that bad 8 3/4 rears still have any of the parts? I am looking to see if I can save this 741 clutch type sure grip w/o getting a whole new unit. I need one side of the unit that keeps the pin from spinning, as it is starting to happen with the unit I have. I am trying to save it as it has the gears I want and it is the same 741 as my car is. Here is a picture of what is going on with mine.
Thanks

741clutchhsng.jpg
Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: roadrunninMark] #2806495
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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
Do any of you guys that bad 8 3/4 rears still have any of the parts? I am looking to see if I can save this 741 clutch type sure grip w/o getting a whole new unit. I need one side of the unit that keeps the pin from spinning, as it is starting to happen with the unit I have. I am trying to save it as it has the gears I want and it is the same 741 as my car is. Here is a picture of what is going on with mine.
Thanks


Sorry but the 2 units I have are both in use.. your unit is getting hard to find.. good luck
EDIT
I should have said the 2 units I run are the 742
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Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: roadrunninMark] #2806543
08/08/20 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
Do any of you guys that bad 8 3/4 rears still have any of the parts? I am looking to see if I can save this 741 clutch type sure grip w/o getting a whole new unit. I need one side of the unit that keeps the pin from spinning, as it is starting to happen with the unit I have. I am trying to save it as it has the gears I want and it is the same 741 as my car is. Here is a picture of what is going on with mine.
Thanks


That’s a cone type, and it’s toast. Start over with a clutch type powr lok.

Re: Building a strong 8 3/4 rearend. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2806562
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You are right, Pac, it is a cone type... all this time I thought it was a clutch type and I went back at looked at it, cone down

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