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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802232
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Gloves: more harmful than protective against Covid-19 ?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-gloves-good-covid-.html

( remember when we were told the general public should not wear masks.... )

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802235
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British groups claims there are six types of Covid-19 disease

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid--1.html

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The six symptom groups in a sequence from least to most severe are:

Headache, loss of smell, muscle pains, cough, sore throat, chest pain, no fever.
Headache, loss of smell, cough, sore throat, hoarseness, fever, loss of appetite.
Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, diarrhea, sore throat, chest pain, no cough.
Headache, loss of smell, cough, fever, hoarseness, chest pain, fatigue.
Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain.

Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain, shortness of breath, diarrhea, abdominal pain.

The last three types are tied with the most severe disease, the researchers noted.
The range of those with severe symptoms who need help breathing range from about 9% to 20%,
while those with milder symptoms who need breathing aids range from 2% to 3%.

Also, nearly half of the patients with the most severe symptoms ended up in a hospital,
compared with 16% of those with the least severe symptoms, the findings showed.

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South Florida ICU doctors say any excess weight is a bad sign for Covid-19 recovery

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This is what I am telling my obesity management patients: 'This is not about vanity,'" Varney said. "'This is not about looking good in clothes. What this virus has shown to us and needs to be taken seriously and recognized is the impact obesity has on your health and your life. It can be the difference between life and early death.'"

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802241
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Originally Posted by 360view
Gloves: more harmful than protective against Covid-19 ?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-gloves-good-covid-.html

( remember when we were told the general public should not wear masks.... )


What we should have been told is the truth, its the morons that wear the PPE that are the problem, not the PPE, but that does not inspire the electorate.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802385
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Wednesday Wall Street Journal on page A17 has a guest article
“How to Hold Beijing Accountable for the Coronavirus”
by Jamie Metzl,
a former NSC member during the Bill Clinton administration.

It makes a factual case that the virus most likely escaped from the Wuhan Level 4 lab.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802451
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Only 20,000 Covid-19 patients have been given convalescent plasma from blood of other Covid-19 survivors.
Seems like it should have been ten times that number or more.

Short history of convalescent plasma

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-convalescent-plasma-covid-treatment-clinical.html

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German researchers find a double weakness in Covid-19 virus replication and will search for a drug

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802457
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Recent antibody studies in India hint that 25% to 57% of its citizens in the country’s slums may have already had the Covid-19 virus.
but only 35,000 is the official Death toll.

India has a population estimate of 1,400,000,000
or more than four times greater than the USA,
which has had more than 140,000 Covid-19 attributed deaths.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-india-virus-cases-million-slum.html

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A study released Tuesday that tested for coronavirus antibodies reported some 57 percent of people in Mumbai's teeming slums have had the infection—far more than official data suggests.

The Tata Institute of Fundamental Research's Ullas S. Kolthur, who was involved in carrying out the survey, said he was surprised by the results.

"At least in the slums, we think it is largely because social distancing wouldn't work simply because of the population density," Kolthur told AFP.

Last week a similar study indicated that almost a quarter of people in the capital, New Delhi, have had the virus—almost 40 times the official total.

There are, however, also doubts about the accuracy of such tests, since other coronaviruses—not just the novel COVID-19—may also produce antibodies that could give a false positive result.

The Mumbai survey also covered a relatively small sample of around 7,000 people.

India now has the third-highest number of cases in the world behind the United States and Brazil, although the official number of deaths in the South Asian nation is far lower.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Gloves: more harmful than protective against Covid-19 ?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-gloves-good-covid-.html

( remember when we were told the general public should not wear masks.... )


The glove situation is obvious, and has been obvious from the start. Picture getting paint on your hands - everything you touch with your hands will get paint on it. Now put gloves on and get paint on the gloves - same scenario. Main point - don't touch your face and make sure you wash your hands well and regularly. Leave the gloves at home, unless you are meticulous on how you use them, remove them, and dispose of them.

I don't understand the confusion about face masks, but I continually hear this - remember when.... etc.

As I understand it, there was a brief period when they said masks weren't necessary from the viewpoint of them providing personal protection. This was due to the fact that most masks do not seal the mouth and nose area and thus do not provide protection to the individual wearing them.

However, it was since determined that wearing a mask that covers your mouth and nose will prevent you from spreading the virus to other people, and therefore if everybody wears a mask you will not pass on your virus to others. It's an unselfish thing to do, to wear a mask to protect others, but if followed by all, or a high percentage, of the population, it should severely cut down on virus transmission.

But, there are those who think that wearing a mask is somehow a violation of their rights, and thus choose to (and appear to be proud of) not wear a mask. So they are basically saying it's against their personal rights to ask them to provide protection for their fellow citizens. Seems kind of selfish, but that's what it is.

I hope this clears it up a little.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802543
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German researchers believe having prior “common cold” coronaviruses may prepare some to handle Covid-19 better

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Universitätsmedizin Berlin and the Max Planck Institute for Molecular Genetics (MPIMG) show that some healthy individuals possess immune cells capable of recognizing the novel coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. The reason for this might be found in prior infections with 'common cold' coronaviruses. Whether or not this cross-reactivity has a protective effect on the clinical course in individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2 will now be addressed by the 'Charité Corona Cross' study.
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In Germany, coronaviruses are responsible for up to 30 percent of all seasonal colds, says Prof. Dr. Andreas Thiel

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Couples feel relationship strain from Covid-19 and more “meltdowns” occur.

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They figure at least 20 million U.S. couples need relationship therapy, but only 10% actually get any. And they hope their software app improves that percentage by reducing the cost barrier at a time many are already squeezed financially and emotionally.

"It's not that people want to find out what's wrong with them; they want to find out what to do right," Julie Gottman said.

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Scientists at Cincinnati Children's Hospital find reason why elderly do not respond well to vaccines

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"These findings are the result of five years of work stemming from a long-standing collaboration between my lab and Dr. Claire Chougnet's lab, contributions from several faculty-level scientists, and particularly the hard work of one amazing former graduate student, Dr. Maha Almanan," Hildeman says.

The detectives ultimately traced excess IL-10 production to the cell type they dubbed Tfh 10. Then, in mouse models, they showed that simple blockade of IL-10 at the time of vaccination could restore the antibody response nearly to the level of young animals

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2802584
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Originally Posted by 360view
Scientists at Cincinnati Children's Hospital find reason why elderly do not respond well to vaccines

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-helper-cell-vaccines-effective-seniors.html

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"These findings are the result of five years of work stemming from a long-standing collaboration between my lab and Dr. Claire Chougnet's lab, contributions from several faculty-level scientists, and particularly the hard work of one amazing former graduate student, Dr. Maha Almanan," Hildeman says.

The detectives ultimately traced excess IL-10 production to the cell type they dubbed Tfh 10. Then, in mouse models, they showed that simple blockade of IL-10 at the time of vaccination could restore the antibody response nearly to the level of young animals

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Sounds like Fountain of Youth may be on the way.


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As for the fountain of youth search....

Quercetin (which will also get a delayed clinical trial to see if can treat Covid-19 virus like it treated Ebola virus)
and the leukemia drug
Dasatinib

are the interesting combo
that reduces “senescent cells” that build up as we age

https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Drug-cocktail-reduced-signs-of-age-related-13063962.php

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Even in mice who were already well along aging’s path, the senolytic cocktail — a dose of the leukemia drug dasatinib and the dietary supplement quercetin — drove down senescent cells’ numbers, tamped down the inflammation they cause, and reduced the level of disability that comes with age-related diseases.
When given to younger mice in which the aging process was jump-started with a transfer of senescent cells, the anti-aging cocktail forestalled the onset of age-related diseases. And the anti-aging effects of a single five-day course of the cocktail lasted for months, the equivalent in humans of more than a decade.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Neil] #2803070
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Don't forget that face masks only work against Covid-19 if they are decorated with at least 16 pieces of flair.

You only have 16? Do you want to do just the minimum? Don't you want to express yourself?


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Masks, no masks, masks again, double layer masks, now they want frickin googles or face shields.... lol! smile

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As mentioned previously (many times), the idea of masks is to prevent you from spreading the virus to others, in the event that you are presymptomatic or asymptomatic.

It's an unselfish act, an inconvenience, to help prevent the spread of covid, and if everybody does it, then it should be fairly effective.

However, in today's society the concept of inconveniencing yourself for the benefit of others seems to be somewhat unpopular. Unfortunately.

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Yup.

Odd also, there used to be a stimga attached to that thinking, not anymore.


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One of the mayors or governors is going to grab the goggle thing and run with it. Chemistry goggles and a face mask on a hot day sounds like a real treat.

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