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Sticky REAL street radial #2801924
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Gentlemen, I have a problem. Due to my imminent relocation to a more rural area, including having to drive a couple of miles on a county gravel road to get to the blacktop, my Hemi powered 'Cuda is going to become a road car and as such, Drag radials will not be an option. I am looking for the stickiest true road radial for a 17x9" wheel and I want a 27-28" tall tire and that cuts the field by a bunch, 26" just does not look right. About the closest I can find is the Nitto 555g that is rated at 200 treadwear in the 275-50-17. This is my wifes toy but with a touch over 700 hp, it is flat dangerous on the gas and at hiway speed if it downshifts to second, it gets real loose real quick. If anyone has a recommendation, I am all ears.

Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Lee446] #2801939
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I had Nitto 555R on my Charger, not much better than a regular 50k mile street tire. I now have MT street R radials, they hook great but the Houston heat makes them prone to punctures from rocks or anything that is even slightly sharp .

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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: CSK] #2801940
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What about Nitto 555R.

Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: ksj] #2801942
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Originally Posted by ksj
What about Nitto 555R.


Sorry thats what it was, forgot the R Same junk

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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: CSK] #2801944
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All of the Nitto competition tires in 17" are under 26" tall. I used to have good luck with M/T et streets but they quit making a 28" tall 17 " tire and I could not run them anyway, gravel roads are hard on all tires, but they are really hard on the soft drag radials.

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Problem with anything sticky on gravel is they pitch the small stones into the paint.
I have to creep one of my cars down the gravel, and those are a Cooper Extreme Summer handling tires.

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Originally Posted by Lee446
All of the Nitto competition tires in 17" are under 26" tall. I used to have good luck with M/T et streets but they quit making a 28" tall 17 " tire and I could not run them anyway, gravel roads are hard on all tires, but they are really hard on the soft drag radials.


M & H has some 28in x 17 Drag Radials

https://www.mandhtires.com/M-H-Drag-Tires/M-H-Drag-Radials


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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Lee446] #2802003
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I would take a look at the M/T S/R radial. I believe there about as soft as you will find in a street tire. I had a racer over on B bodies tell me they are the same compound as the M/T street R radial which i use and they are super sticky at the track.

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Drag radials are out of the question. This will be more of a road/hiway car now, and I need a speed rated tire that is safe if it rains, Think Power Tour type driving. I realize that I am not going to find anything that will really hook up, but I am trying to find the best compromise street radial I can find. The biggest problem for me is that most of the modern size 17's are 35 maybe 40 aspect tires and are 25-26" tall. The M/T sr is not available in a 17" tire more than 8" wide, if they had a 275/50/17, I would buy it.

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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Lee446] #2802059
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I have a set of these that are a huge improvement over the 'regular' tires I used to run. I have no idea how they compare to other 'ultra' tires but they are affordable to try. Probably too tall for you though:

https://www.atturo.com/tire/az800/6771


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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: ksj] #2802122
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Originally Posted by ksj
What about Nitto 555R.


They ride good but are useless on my hemi cuda. I got better traction from old polyglass tires.

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We call them Shittos.


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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Lee446] #2802164
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Hmm...great experience with the Nitto 555Rs here. Mind you that's behind a decent 360 motor, 4K converter stall and 4.10 gear, so that does put a bit of beating on the tires. If I aim for it yes, of course I'll leave a set of tire marks on the pavement, but with that stall speed I found a good launch to be more about easing into the engine RPMs.

I suppose what works for me is that I'm running them at 20 psi, the tires being: 275-60R15s, so plenty of sidewall.

Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Lee446] #2802209
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I looked all over & it would seem the Nitto is about it, Goodyear has some 17's but they look like a light truck tire.


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Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: CSK] #2802217
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I have been experimenting with a set of Vitour Galaxy radials from eBay on my '68 GTS 383 4-speed car. They are cheap for testing and so far no issues. The problem with any sticky tire is that gravel won't know if it's a drag tire or not. No sticky, no traction. Big sticky, big rock chips. This is coming from a guy that has a loooooooooong gravel road to his house. If it was me I'd run a set of M&H DOT radials. They are best of both worlds IMO.



Re: Sticky REAL street radial [Re: Jeremiah] #2802558
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The problem with 17s.. is getting soft tread wear (such as 200) in a diameter that is a little tall (ie: 27-28"... doesn't exist). Simply, there aren't many sizes available in soft compound, such as 200.

Step up to 18s and there are many more sizes in soft compound, such as 200 TW.

Take a look over at the Tire Rack web site.


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The MT Street S/S 305/45-17 looks right up your alley, though hooking up 700 HP on the street isn't gonna be easy. Edit-with a 9" wheel , it's a bit narrow, you should go for a 10" to get it done./edit

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Check the Mustang6G site in the GT500 section or other related sections to see how the Michelin PS4 compares. They come on on performance pack GT Mustangs. I have a. 19 GT with them and they are about as good as a 30,000 mile tire gets IMHO. But you have a lot more torque so asking the GT500 crowd might offer more info.


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If you step down to the 255/50/17 the Nitto Invo is out there as well as the Federal ss595 if you can still find it.Both are 260 treadwear and the federal is a bunch cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Lee446
Gentlemen, I have a problem. Due to my imminent relocation to a more rural area, including having to drive a couple of miles on a county gravel road to get to the blacktop, my Hemi powered 'Cuda is going to become a road car and as such, Drag radials will not be an option. I am looking for the stickiest true road radial for a 17x9" wheel and I want a 27-28" tall tire and that cuts the field by a bunch, 26" just does not look right. About the closest I can find is the Nitto 555g that is rated at 200 treadwear in the 275-50-17. This is my wifes toy but with a touch over 700 hp, it is flat dangerous on the gas and at hiway speed if it downshifts to second, it gets real loose real quick. If anyone has a recommendation, I am all ears.


Sticky tires + gravel roads = not good for the paint.

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