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Small block guys will like this: #2799424
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I don't know much about small blocks but this looked good to me:

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/la-...SM9QGgGEm2Uc90Z5pphTBUdlguwDI-JY7hu9Ctw0

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799438
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You are correct, I like that a lot.
Some interesting ideas in that build.

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Yeah I need to learn about small blocks. I had no idea a stock small block ( factory block) could make that kind of power and not hurt something.

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799444
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Originally Posted by Warhawk
Yeah I need to learn about small blocks. I had no idea a stock small block ( factory block) could make that kind of power and not hurt something.


My question would be, how long will it take it? Very interesting build for sure.

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: justinp61] #2799446
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Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by Warhawk
Yeah I need to learn about small blocks. I had no idea a stock small block ( factory block) could make that kind of power and not hurt something.


My question would be, how long will it take it? Very interesting build for sure.


I am curious about that as well.

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: topside] #2799454
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That is a sweet LA.. and a ton of work on it
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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2799465
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Very cool.

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799474
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A magnum block is stronger than any production LA block except maybe a TA but even then I think I would take the magnum. It has stronger metal you can feel when grinding clearance for strokers, it has some more meat around where the mains meet the pan rail and some other little goodies. I also see in those pics he tied 3 of the cam bearings together with a home made brace since he was not using the factory roller lifter set up.


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799536
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Originally Posted by Warhawk
Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by Warhawk
Yeah I need to learn about small blocks. I had no idea a stock small block ( factory block) could make that kind of power and not hurt something.


My question would be, how long will it take it? Very interesting build for sure.


I am curious about that as well.


I have asked in the past on here (because someone coined the phrase "split a block") who has "split a block"?

No replies. No photos. No proof.

When production Gen 3's are almost up to 900hp with 5 years warranty you can be certain 800hp LA's are well within reason. twocents

Much enjoyed the post, thanks! up Imagine this build on a street car with the 4.25 crank. That's where I'm going.........


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: Grizzly] #2799557
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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Originally Posted by Warhawk
Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by Warhawk
Yeah I need to learn about small blocks. I had no idea a stock small block ( factory block) could make that kind of power and not hurt something.


My question would be, how long will it take it? Very interesting build for sure.


I am curious about that as well.


I have asked in the past on here (because someone coined the phrase "split a block") who has "split a block"?

No replies. No photos. No proof.

When production Gen 3's are almost up to 900hp with 5 years warranty you can be certain 800hp LA's are well within reason. twocents

Much enjoyed the post, thanks! up Imagine this build on a street car with the 4.25 crank. That's where I'm going.........


Grizzly that sounds pretty awesome to me! I am glad I shared this article and imagine this: No arguments, no political junk. Here we are talking about Mopars on a Mopar website. Who would have thunk it?! PS, I would love to see your project if you have some pictures.

Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799559
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Great build.
We had several threads about this samemotor on here about a year ago. After it was built, and pre dyno
He actually screwed my shortblock together for me( Jack Barna) great guy. Been friends with his dad a long time, they are local here in West Mi


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2799560
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Originally Posted by Warhawk
PS, I would love to see your project if you have some pictures.


I've studied the ls7 and the big flow, big lift numbers......factory. I've studied the Gen 3's and their big flow numbers.......factory:

I don't see why 700+ torque in a six pack 440 small block isn't doable on a street car with untouched Victor heads. twocents

My problem is the aftermarket reliabilty of the rockers. So, unless someone tells me Hughes rockers will last 80,000 miles I won't be doing anything. On paper, it will work though.


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: Grizzly] #2799562
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I think I read that BB stamped rockers will work on the SB victors.

On a side note, I split a 273 block from the main bearing to the cam bearings on all 5


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: HotRodDave] #2799568
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I think I read that BB stamped rockers will work on the SB victors.


I would have to have visual proof of this.

As for splitting your 273, again, photos to back up your claim, please.


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: Grizzly] #2799584
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On my stock block and W-2s I had BB roller rockers on it(they were packaged as SB rockers) but
I had issues with them from the get go till I started measuring them.. The portion that was on the
valve was long and they needed caps.. at about 7000rpm they would kick out the caps.. I had
a pile of cap in the valley.. glad I screened it.. soon after I got SB ones then things were fine and
it would rev like it should have and didnt need caps.. I learned alot
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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: Grizzly] #2799590
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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I think I read that BB stamped rockers will work on the SB victors.


I would have to have visual proof of this.

As for splitting your 273, again, photos to back up your claim, please.


Back in 97 everyone didn't just have digital cameras everywhere so I must be lying.


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: HotRodDave] #2799598
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Yes Dave, I have yet to see 525 pounds of cast iron "split" into pieces. Even if you tied it to a couple of D8 Cats in opposite directions I doubt you could tear any engine block apart. rolleyes This from a former Heavy Equipment Operator and Metal Worker.

There's a few videos of 2000hp, 100psi boosted tractor pullers shearing the head bolts off and throwing parts everywhere, is that what you were doing with the 273?


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Re: Small block guys will like this: [Re: Grizzly] #2799604
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A friend has built a few engines with these heads and tends to steer his customers toward T&D rockers. He has used the Hughes rockers on one or two engines. Harland Sharp sent him out a rocker system, but it was so far away from working, it was sent back . I believe the arms were BBM units, I've got pictures somewhere.


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My 418/360, production head engine made near 700hp. 1972 360 block with 587 cyl. head castings. 3050+ pound car ran in the 9.60s at 136mph, with 1.26 60ft times, or better cause 60 footed on rears alot of the time. 2700+ passes and no valve job, pistons or crank never out of the block. Very underated engines. Engine in car now is 1972 340 block with 60779 edelbrock heads. Car has ran exactly the same as combo with factory heads. Lost weight with the eddys but had to put the weight back on in the form of wheelie bars.

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