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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2798835
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Smoke Detector like sensor
detects floating Covid-19 virus particles in air

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-sensor-coronavirus-particles-air.html

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Sun originally began working on gas-sensing technology to help find illegal drugs and explosives—a job often left to dogs with specialized training.

"Those are trained sniffer dogs, and they can do the job by just simply smelling," Sun says. "So I thought, 'why can't we engineers design something like an electronic sensor that can beat that?'"

In more recent years, Sun and his colleagues have been working on other devices to sense airborne molecules and use them as biomarkers to screen for medical conditions such as Alzheimer's disease and lung cancer.

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( why not use trained dogs, or bees - both of which can detect buried explosives?
I know a guy in Chapel Hill NC who trained dogs in the 1990s to detect certain cancers, but claimed UNC Hospital dropped the idea because of payment difficulties. British researchers have trained dogs to detect cancers, such as prostate)

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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-cdc-covid-hospitalization.html

Covid-19 deaths
Covid-19 hospitalizations
Covid-19 ICU admissions

all seem more important than numbers of negative & positive case test reports

All should be publicly broken down as to age, sex, ethnicity.

Researchers should have access to more medical details under confidentiality Limitations.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Like the psychological illusion of total 80+ mph driving safety in a steel cocoon of 14 Air Bags and Anti-lock brakes,
could mandatory mask wearing
cause illogical additional risk taking?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-mandatory-masks-lull-people-coronavirus.html

( I somewhat doubt it)


The very same point can be be made with the "6 foot" suggestion, in that 6' is almost an arbitrary number picked out of the sky, should be, maintain as much distance as you feel comfortable with, if safety is a concern, more always being safer


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Somewhat more free Hong Kong press reports Covid-19 spreading,
while communist party censored mainland China media parrots that Covid-19 fully contained in 900 million+ population:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-hong-kong-leader-coronavirus.html

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Editorial on the remaining unknowns of Covid-19

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87629

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Estimating the number of people who have been infected is harder still. Most infected people are never formally diagnosed and never become one of the "cases" in the news. The limitations of the tests and the difficulty of attracting a representative population to be tested make it hard to estimate the true number of infections. The preferred test (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction-based tests) uses RNA technology to see if the virus is present in nasal or oral swabs. It is a good test, but still may miss infections in up to 30% of cases.

A second type of test uses blood samples to look for an antibody called immunoglobulin (Ig)G that implies the person was previously infected. Based on IgG test results, the CDC assumes that 5% to 8% of the population has been infected. That would mean 24 million Americans have already had COVID-19 or a very similar illness. That is more than 10 times the number of confirmed cases.

The number is consequential: a higher infection rate for the same number of deaths implies that the virus is less deadly. A review by a prominent epidemiologist considered 23 population studies with sample sizes of at least 500 people and found the percentage who have positive antibodies ranged from 0.1% to 48% -- a 480-fold difference. Although the study was robustly criticized and at odds with highly cited, peer-reviewed research, it has appeared in over 30 news outlets, and the range of estimates allows people to pick a number that justifies their political position.

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Originally Posted by 360view
it has appeared in over 30 news outlets, and the range of estimates allows people to pick a number that justifies their political position.


Look no further than this thread.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
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“Breakthrough” aerosol treatment for Covid-19 claimed by British Biotech firm after moderate size clinical trial.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-breakthrough-treatment-slashes-virus-death.html

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An aerosol-based drug treatment could drastically reduce the number of new coronavirus patients dying from the disease or requiring intensive care, according to preliminary results released Monday by a British biotech firm.

In a randomised trial of 100 patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19, those who received an inhaled formula of the protein interferon beta were at 79 percent lower risk of developing severe disease compared to those who received a placebo.

They were also more than twice as likely to make a full recovery compared with the control group.

The firm behind the treatment, known as SNG001, said the preliminary results suggested "a major breakthrough" in the pandemic.

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You immune system B-cells and T-cells explained, especially as regards Covid-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-coronavirus-cells.html

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But the adaptive immune system is slow and can take several days before two key cell types—B cells and T cells—are brought into play.

T cells are further grouped into two sub-types, CD4+ and CD8+ cells. CD4+ are helper T cells that help the activity of other immune cells by releasing cytokines. The cytokines prime the maturation of B cells, which become plasma cells and produce antibodies to neutralize the pathogen.

CD8+ cytotoxic T cells, on the other hand, directly kill infected cells.

Once the adaptive immune system has vanquished the invader, a pool of long-lived memory T and B cells are made. These memory lymphocytes remain dormant until the next time they encounter the same pathogen. This time, though, they produce a much faster and stronger immune reaction. Memory is the key feature of the adaptive immune system, enabling long-term protection.

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( If you get a MMR or BCG vaccine, other parts of your immune system that fight a wide variety of viruses with more blunt force weapons, get boosted)

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Details of vaccine from U of Oxford

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-uk-vaccine-sars-cov-safe-immune.html

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Explaining how the vaccine works, study lead author Professor Andrew Pollard, University of Oxford, UK, says:
"The new vaccine is a chimpanzee adenovirus viral vector (ChAdOx1) vaccine that expresses the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. It uses a common cold virus (adenovirus) that infects chimpanzees, which has been weakened so that it can't cause any disease in humans, and is genetically modified to code for the spike protein of the human SARS-CoV-2 virus. This means that when the adenovirus enters vaccinated people's cells it also delivers the spike protein genetic code. This causes these people's cells to produce the spike protein, and helps teach the immune system to recognise the SARS-CoV-2 virus."

He continues: "The immune system has two ways of finding and attacking pathogens—antibody and T cell responses. This vaccine is intended to induce both, so it can attack the virus when it's circulating in the body, as well as attacking infected cells.

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( I am glad they are not “monkeying around” )

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2798917
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Mental illness is real. Unlike some of the info in this post.


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John, PA. citizens should be proud of the way they have kept their numbers down despite being the 5th largest populated state.

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Originally Posted by second 70
John, PA. citizens should be proud of the way they have kept their numbers down despite being the 5th largest populated state.




If our democrat governor wouldn’t have murdered people by putting patients with coronavirus in with healthy people in our Senior Citizens our numbers would be even better. Most of us are out there living life not sheltered in the basement.


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A little truth for you.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR7r0gG0rjQ][/url]


Look at the percentage of deaths by age or by those who are confined to nursing homes.

Look at the corruption of state officials, like Cousin It here in PA who pulled his Mom out of a nursing home and put her up in a hotel, while signing the death warrants of thousands of other moms by sending COVID patients to nursing homes. Or the PA governor who decided which businesses would be open by playing favorites with those owned by friends, contributors and liberals. And he kept entire counties shut down because business owners and elected representatives of those counties sued him, called him out, threatened to open and complained and exposed his crap publicly,

This is all crap. You need something to be afraid of, start paying attention to what is going on in the cities, the boardrooms, the statehouses and mayor's offices, Congress.

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If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Originally Posted by 360view
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Originally Posted by 360view
The reporting of 100% case positive numbers from many sites in Florida is highly suspicious.
It sure seems like a co-ordinated effort to decieve.


Except there is one simple explanation, in that they are reporting, or some are only recording the positive cases, and excluding the negative tests, for which a case can made, resulting in a 100% positive results, which to most people would be a moronic attempt to put one's thumb on the scale for a personal agenda. I can see the logic in only reporting the positive cases, its those calculating and publishing the negative/positive percentages that are using faulty/partial data. Besides nothing in life is 100% that I have seen.


My reading on the details of what happened at those Florida testing sites does not support that explanation.

However, have Florida officials who have “good intentions” done “bat crazy” things in the past?

Remember the female election official in Palm Beach County who created the “Butterfly Ballot” in the year 2000 election?

I do not believe she had any sort of conspiracy intent.


Well, don't get shy all the sudden, spill the beans.




"ORLANDO, Fla. – For at least the past 11 days, the Florida Department of Health coronavirus report shows hundreds of laboratories are reporting 98 to 100% of COVID-19 tests are coming back positive and according to the DOH those statistics are because some private labs aren’t reporting their negative results at all.


The daily coronavirus report produced by the Florida Department of Health lists all coronavirus tests and their outcomes --- positive, negative or inconclusive-- from private labs around the state and those outsourced to facilities outside Florida. A look back at the daily coronavirus report shows that as far back as July 4 labs across the state have reported positive cases above 98%.

While some of those high statistics can be explained by the number of tests run, for example one out of one test, others cannot. Some of the private laboratories are not reporting any negative tests but hundreds of positive COVID-19 tests.

Fox 35 was the first to report the high percentages on the report.

When asked about the 98 to 100% positivity rates on the report, a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Health said the reason was due to some “smaller, private labs” not reporting negative test results to the state"

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...-in-florida-department-of-health-report/


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Alcohol consumption up in North Carolina, and rest of USA

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-stress-isolation-free-people-pandemic.html

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After the enactment of stay-at-home orders in many states and the relaxation of several state alcohol regulations, alcohol consumption, including drinking above the recommended guidelines and binge drinking, increased," Barbosa said.

State officials in Maryland, New Jersey and New York deemed liquor stores essential, and restaurants in New York, Vermont, Nebraska, Colorado and California can sell drinks for takeout and delivery.

North Carolina, however, has not relaxed alcohol restrictions, said Jeff Strickland, a spokesperson for the N.C. ABC Commission. But the state is allowing stores to sell alcohol for curbside pickup as these businesses struggle because of the pandemic.

"North Carolina ... in fact tightened (alcohol regulations)," Strickland said. "For example, no onsite consumption of alcohol was allowed at any ABC-permitted business during Phase 1, and some businesses are still unable to have onsite consumption during Phase 2."

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Are people who are always wanting to learn more about gasoline engines afraid of engines?

Are people who are always wanting to learn more about money afraid of money?

Are people who are always wanting to know more about the US Constitution afraid of law?

Are people who are always seeking to know more about religion afraid of religion?

As Charlie Daniels learned more about music was he more afraid of music?

Is life long human curiosity an illness to be cured ?
( “curiosity killed the cat”)

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Originally Posted by 360view
Are people who are always wanting to learn more about gasoline engines afraid of engines?

Are people who are always wanting to learn more about money afraid of money?

Are people who are always wanting to know more about the US Constitution afraid of law?

Are people who are always seeking to know more about religion afraid of religion?

As Charlie Daniels learned more about music was he more afraid of music?

Is life long human curiosity an illness to be cured ?
( “curiosity killed the cat”)


Nope, nope and depending on which religion, maybe you should be.

Likewise, the more we find out about this illness and the activities surrounding it, the less concerned I am about the illness. I'm more afraid of getting into an altercation with some Karen over not wearing a mask. But with the rackets being run by people in a position to do so, I'm afraid of the response and the damage being done as a result. And the dummies who are buying into the panic.

A guy in Florida gets killed on a motorcycle and gets written up as a COVID death. COVID testing there shows a near 100% infection rate. How many people have died from flu or pneumonia this year and been added to the COVID stats, without actually having been infected by the Chinavirus? It's become a joke.


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Originally Posted by 360view
Are people who are always wanting to learn more about gasoline engines afraid of engines?

Are people who are always wanting to learn more about money afraid of money?

Are people who are always wanting to know more about the US Constitution afraid of law?

Are people who are always seeking to know more about religion afraid of religion?

As Charlie Daniels learned more about music was he more afraid of music?

Is life long human curiosity an illness to be cured ?
( “curiosity killed the cat”)




Very bad example because these people lived their lives and weren’t consumed by gloom and doom hiding away in their basement. You are on Corona overload and about ready to short circuit. Take a day off and go fishing all by yourself in a little bubble and we can call
You “bubble boy”


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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Very bad example because these people lived their lives and weren’t consumed by gloom and doom hiding away in their basement. You are on Corona overload and about ready to short circuit. Take a day off and go fishing all by yourself in a little bubble and we can call
You “bubble boy”


I do not even have a basement, and 5 days out of the week I travel more than 100 road miles.
In the past I have Indeed worked in one of those positive air pressure “Bubble” suits at Oak Ridge National Lab.

Emotionally, you seem possibly in corona overload, but one cannot really diagnose that from afar.

If this “Reader’s Digest” of Covid-19 research reports upset you, just don’t read them.

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Can someone explain how the magical Wuflu vaccine people seem to be counting on will be more effective than the yearly usual flu vaccine which is regularly ineffective?


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