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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2795918
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Long article on deadly cost of lockdowns in view of excess deaths

https://www.city-journal.org/deadly-cost-of-lockdown-policies

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The lockdowns led to wide unemployment and economic recession, resulting in increased drug and alcohol abuse and increases in domestic abuse and suicides. Most studies in a systematic literature review found a positive association between economic recession and increased suicides. Data from the 2008 Great Recession showed a strong positive correlation between increasing unemployment and increasing suicide in middle aged (45–64) people. Ten times as many people texted a federal government disaster mental-distress hotline in April 2020 as in April 2019.

As we consider how to deal with resurgent numbers of Covid cases, we must acknowledge that mitigation measures like shelter-in-place and lockdowns appear to have contributed to the death toll. The orders were issued by states and localities in late March; excess deaths peaked in the week ending April 11. Reopening began in mid-April, and by May 20 all states that had imposed orders started to lift restrictions. In June, as the economy continued reopening, excess deaths waned.

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Why have 3 US States with 10% of the population had 42% of Covid-19 deaths?

https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/

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The context of the US numbers matters for several reasons. For one, understanding why New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts have suffered so much more from the coronavirus may hold keys to combating the virus.

Secondly, there is currently a great deal of scrutiny on states such as Florida, Texas, and Arizona, which have seen case numbers increase in recent weeks, a spike that began in mid-June after states reopened their economies. The implication is that these states dropped the ball by reopening too soon.

None of these states, however, has a per capita fatality rate that even approaches New Jersey, Massachusetts, or New York. Below are the figures as of July 7.

Deaths per million:

New Jersey: 1,728.7
New York: 1,660
Massachusetts: 1,189
Arizona: 265
Florida: 179
Texas: 94

Considering these numbers, one would not expect to see a governor from New Jersey, New York, or Massachusetts lecture these other states on their handling of the coronavirus. But that’s exactly what Gov. Cuomo did, claiming his state-ordered lockdown “saved lives” and chastening governors who opened their economies.

“I say to them all look at the numbers,” Cuomo said, referring to leaders in the states seeing rises in COVID-19 cases. “You played politics with this virus, and you lost. You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House, ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business.’”

Cuomo makes no mention of the social costs of the economic lockdowns—mass unemployment, widespread bankruptcy, and surging mental health deterioration, drug abuse, and global poverty. Nor does he mention his state’s catastrophically high COVID death toll.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2795973
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"Considering these numbers, one would not expect to see a governor from New Jersey, New York, or Massachusetts lecture these other states on their handling of the coronavirus. But that’s exactly what Gov. Cuomo did, claiming his state-ordered lockdown “saved lives” I missed the part that proved this incorrect and chastening governors who opened their economies. That chapter is not yet finished before ANYONE starts popping the Champagne

“I say to them all look at the numbers,” Cuomo said, referring to leaders in the states seeing rises in COVID-19 cases. “You played politics with this virus, and you lost. You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House, ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business.’” A big issue also not mentioned, NY was essentially the canary in the coal mine for the rest of the country regarding ventilators, PPE, therapeutics, testing, masks, social separation, etc, hard to expect them to match the other states/Feds that should have been paying attention as NY struggled.

Cuomo makes no mention of the social costs of the economic lockdowns—mass unemployment, widespread bankruptcy, and surging mental health deterioration, drug abuse, and global poverty. Nor does he mention his state’s catastrophically high COVID death toll" Also not mentioned, is the timeline of the REAL implementation of the Fed financial assistance that trickled down after many weeks to the those actually dealing with "mass unemployment, widespread bankruptcy, and surging mental health deterioration, drug abuse, and global poverty." The states NY is being compared to citizens are suffering at a time when those financial programs are already known and in full force, which NY did not have, and uncertainty is a major stressor for those living pay check to paycheck and out of work. Typical propaganda, selected facts chosen for one's agenda and omission of those facts counter to one's agenda.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2796018
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A bit off the current topic, me and my wife are both high risk, im really high risk but I keep her as safe as possible and I do what I must.

Now her three sisters want to come visit next weekend, all three from out of state and three different cities. Two live in the same state that says of they leave and come back they have to self quarantine. One from a semi major city.

I dont think I can let it happen right now. Im the young one at near 60, wife is 62, oldest sis is 72. And one is 66 the other 68. Sounds like a real sound plan here to me. NOT.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2796019
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With a background like that, I would not recommend you have any visitors.
If you must, everyone gets their temperature checked twice a day, wears a mask at all times when in the same room with you, frequent hand washing or sanitizing.
And if there's any argument about doing the above - boot 'em.
My twocents and professional opinion.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2796045
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If safe as possible is the goal, and with everyone involved, "next weekend" should be postponed, until those visiting are willing to self quarantine for 14? days. and for greater certainty, have them take a covid test after the 7th? day of quarantine, if that is too much to ask, zoom, or have them send a card in the mail.

I have a similar future visit/trip under consideration with my 92yr old mother to visit my older sister out of state. I understand at this point, all of our clocks are ticking, just the thought of surviving after getting another family member covid sick is not something I wish to carry to my grave.-

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2796060
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Just back from Carlisle Mopar Show

Everything at the show was almost normal at least from the spectator side

All the Carlisle crew had masks on but only maybe 10% of the spectators

And no I didn't us a mask but for a short time to check into the motel

So after talking to many moparts members and other people from some high risk states ( nice talking to you )

I will take a two week brake from visiting my 90 year old mother just to be safe, that's if I don't come down with the virus myself

BUT I thought about the risk before going to the show and went and had a great time , Thanks to Ed and the great crew at Carlisle and a great show once again up


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2796167
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Healthy uninfected people already have small numbers of an antibody that can fight Covid-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-scientists-key-element-strong-antibody.html

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Prior research suggests that antibodies encoded by IGHV3-53 are generally present, at least in small numbers, in healthy people's blood. The results therefore offer hope that using a vaccine to boost levels of these ever-present antibodies will protect adequately against the virus.
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The team started by analyzing 294 different SARS-CoV-2-neutralizing antibodies isolated from COVID-19 patients' blood over the past few months. Antibodies are Y-shaped proteins made in immune cells called B-cells. Each B-cell makes a specific antibody type, or clone, which is encoded by a unique combination of antibody genes in the cell. The scientists found that an antibody gene called IGHV3-53 was the most common of the genes for the 294 antibodies, encoding about 10 percent of them.
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The IGHV3-53 antibodies had yet another property suggesting that boosting their numbers would be a good and achievable aim for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine: They appeared to have mutated only minimally from the original versions that would be circulating, initially in small numbers, in the blood of healthy people.

Normally, when activated by an encounter with a virus to which they fit, B-cells will start proliferating and also mutating parts of their antibody genes, in order to generate new B-cells whose antibodies fit the viral target even better. The more mutations needed for this "affinity maturation" process to generate virus-neutralizing antibodies, the harder it can be to induce this same process with a vaccine.

Fortunately, the IGHV3-53 antibodies found in the study seemed to have undergone little or no affinity maturation and yet were already very potent at neutralizing the virus—which hints that a vaccine may be able to induce a protective response from these potent neutralizers relatively easily.

"Coronaviruses have been around for hundreds to thousands of years, and one can imagine that our immune system has evolved in such a way that we carry antibodies like these that can make a powerful response right off the bat, so to speak" Wilson says.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2796170
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Tocilizumab,
originally designed for rheumatoid arthritis,
reduces Covid-19 ventilator deaths around 45%

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-drug-linked-dying-covid-patients.html

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The ASP group developed treatment guidelines provided to Michigan Medicine physicians in mid-March that identified tocilizumab as a potentially beneficial therapy for the most severely ill COVID-19 patients. Those guidelines also pointed out its risks and the lack of evidence for its use in COVID-19, and recommended a dose of 8 milligrams per kilogram.

This led some physicians to choose to use it, while others did not—setting the stage inadvertently for a natural comparison.
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Pogue notes that a single dose of tocilizumab is roughly 100 times more expensive than a course of
dexamethasone. ( which reduces Covid-19 ventilator deaths by 20%)

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2796583
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Went to my local regional chain (pun?) bike shop for a tire repair. It seems they are out of normal stock for the year in parts and bikes until next year, they believe because of COVID, and everybody that didn't buy a new bike, drug out their old ones in the garage to be refurbished. They did have a few nice looking electric cruiser bikes (if that is not an oxymoron, I don't know what is) for $3800. eek


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2796656
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57 confirmed cases of coronavirus infecting housebound paranoid lockdowns people’s. Suspected to be caught by copying and pasting links. Be cautious out there guys.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2796698
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2796822
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
57 confirmed cases of coronavirus infecting housebound paranoid lockdowns people’s. Suspected to be caught by copying and pasting links. Be cautious out there guys.


You must have missed the "expert" opinions that attaching bleach to links before opening cleans everything out and makes it go away, some people believe.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2796832
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Biggest power grab / political scam EVER.

Only a naive sap would fall for what the Trump haters worldwide have created. (sorry if I 'offended' any saps). Amazing how so many idiots will gobble up what the DNC controlled media feeds them.



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Originally Posted by jughed
Biggest power grab / political scam EVER.

Only a naive sap would fall for what the Trump haters worldwide have created. (sorry if I 'offended' any saps). Amazing how so many idiots will gobble up what the DNC controlled media feeds them.


Naw, us "saps", expect nothing less.


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Originally Posted by skicker
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And for this I'm going to HIDE in my house like a coward and end up in a mental home from FEAR of living.


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Close the door I don't want you getting me sick too... rant


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2796907
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PBR If your mother was still alive and you had contact with her on a reg. basis, your saying you wound do nothing to try to prevent the virus from a loved one?



Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by skicker
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And for this I'm going to HIDE in my house like a coward and end up in a mental home from FEAR of living.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2796916
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Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
PBR If your mother was still alive and you had contact with her on a reg. basis, your saying you wound do nothing to try to prevent the virus from a loved one?



Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by skicker
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And for this I'm going to HIDE in my house like a coward and end up in a mental home from FEAR of living.





Yes Potatohead I would do EVERYTHING I could do to protect her. But I sure as heck wouldn't let it consume my life and turn me into a housebound copy and pastier. This virus has done more mental harm than it has physical harm.

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