Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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I sold my 06 truck thinking i could buy a 2020 ram based on what i saw on the ole innerweb, boy was i wrong, cant buy the trucks for the price you see in the listings on cars.com or autotrader, according to the dealerships those sites set the prices for them, WHAT?!!!!!, what a friggn joke this has turned into, i have not bought a new vehicle in 14 years and things sure have changed and not for the good, it was bad enough then, im sure this is nothing new but for me it is, i could continue this rant with a couple thousand words on what has taken place, but i think i will avoid the long reads.
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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none of the dealerships around these parts have the truck i want and none of them are willing to find one or do some dealer trading like they used to, all the dealers i call say they are overwhelmed with customers which i think is bull, i drive by the dealers here and they have one salesman standing in front on his gadget texing or whatever, then i have called various dealers and tell them what i want then never hear back, what a friggn joke, im without a truck and need one, i use my son inlaws when needed but im over that, one example i called on last night, NOT MY FIRST COLOR CHOICE, is listed for 43k and change plus tax, license, doc fees about 4k for those, i said ok i will take it which should have came in around 47k, after me having to call them back and then deal with a smarta$$ they finally called me back and said the deal could be done for 57k which is 14k more than the asking/innerweb price, [censored]!!! sorry, WHAT THE FRIG!!!!! is that more better?
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I sold my 06 truck thinking i could buy a 2020 ram based on what i saw on the ole innerweb, boy was i wrong, cant buy the trucks for the price you see in the listings on cars.com or autotrader, according to the dealerships those sites set the prices for them, WHAT?!!!!!, what a friggn joke this has turned into, i have not bought a new vehicle in 14 years and things sure have changed and not for the good, it was bad enough then, im sure this is nothing new but for me it is, i could continue this rant with a couple thousand words on what has taken place, but i think i will avoid the long reads. In 2017 I was shopping for a new Focus for my daughter. Cars.com had a ton of them starting at $9999. Almost all were very basic manual versions. A couple were the higher SE with automatics. One dealer about a mile from my house had one of the SE models. He did explain to me that the Cars.com price included all possible rebates which we did not qualify for all. But basically I paid a few hundred dollars more and bought it over the phone in about 10 minutes. It was $13k even out the door. Was very pleased with the deal and since have bought 2 more cars from the same salesman. I also bought my 2016 Colorado off of Cars.com as a leftover in February 2017. The car was not local to me and took some haggling but I bought it for $22,800 out the door. Was happy with that transaction also.
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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I sold my 06 truck thinking i could buy a 2020 ram based on what i saw on the ole innerweb, boy was i wrong, cant buy the trucks for the price you see in the listings on cars.com or autotrader, according to the dealerships those sites set the prices for them, WHAT?!!!!!, what a friggn joke this has turned into, i have not bought a new vehicle in 14 years and things sure have changed and not for the good, it was bad enough then, im sure this is nothing new but for me it is, i could continue this rant with a couple thousand words on what has taken place, but i think i will avoid the long reads. In 2017 I was shopping for a new Focus for my daughter. Cars.com had a ton of them starting at $9999. Almost all were very basic manual versions. A couple were the higher SE with automatics. One dealer about a mile from my house had one of the SE models. He did explain to me that the Cars.com price included all possible rebates which we did not qualify for all. But basically I paid a few hundred dollars more and bought it over the phone in about 10 minutes. It was $13k even out the door. Was very pleased with the deal and since have bought 2 more cars from the same salesman. I also bought my 2016 Colorado off of Cars.com as a leftover in February 2017. The car was not local to me and took some haggling but I bought it for $22,800 out the door. Was happy with that transaction also. yeah im starting to think its just the chrysler dodge ram dealerships that are the problem, considering swithcing brands, really dont want to becuz the chevys and fords are just plain ugly imo, i really want the new body style ram, by the way the trucks im looking at are new and about to be one year old in a few months when the 2021 hit the market and the are alot of 2020 out there im asuming becuz of the scamdemic.
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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The dealership I do business with has always been straight with me, of course the sponsor the car show I have been putting on for the last 17 years, though they started sponsoring after my original dealer went out of business in 2009. I was getting my minivan oil changed and walked the lot. They had the exact truck I was thinking of buying, but had was not in the market at the moment. For s&g I asked what the price was if I traded in the minivan that was given to me by the estate of my cousin, so I had nothing in the minivan. Needless to say I drove my new truck home, and brought it back in for free steps the next week as they had a free $500 accessory if you owned a business! 201K miles on my 2015 Ram 4x4 now, and it has been awesome! When I move from this God forsaken state, I will probably still buy from them...
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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When I bought my Dodge truck I made the mistake of going into the dealership in person. Evidently they consider people who walk in the door to be suckers or something. I told the guy I wanted to see the truck that was in the paper with a big discount and he told me that it was sold. I went home and checked stock on line and of course he was lying to me. I ended up contacting a different dealer via email and getting a quote for a truck that was in stock. They gave me a fairly large discount and I was happy. I'm not sure why the first sales guy lied to me. I don't see how lying helps him sell vehicles. This nonsense has been around for a very long time. My dad was looking for a lightly used pickup back around '88 and he went through the same dance. He told that salesman he would not buy ANY vehicle from him after pulling that, and left. (He ended up with a nice four-year-old F-150 with only 40k miles at the second dealership, who did "have it in stock".) I suspect HIS parents had the same BS experience in their day... Apparently the rationale is, once they have a live sucker on the lot, they'll sell him something. Preferably an upsell. I highly recommend anyone daring to set foot on a car lot read Remar Sutton's "Don't Get Taken Every Time". It's been through several printings and is essential reading before entering the lions' den. Incidentally, the last time I bought a car from a dealer was also four years old in '88, and they pulled every single stunt detailed in the book. Wish I'd known about it then.
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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Dealers have no cars, the factories have been closed for the most part since March. Not the time to be looking for a new truck IMO, they probably have 5 left and 267 customers calling for them, you probably saw a pre-covid ad. I can only imagine the greasy bait and switch s*** going on right now
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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I would not go as far as the TITLE to this topic ... but stuff like ... The sales girl saying she would THROW INTO THE DEAL a couple oil changes.. Hasn’t happened yet - no confirmation in writing- ... SRT oil changes cost from 110$ to almost 200 clams
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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You'll avoid a lot of aggravation if you just email them, give them a stock number and ask for an "out the door" price. Get the deal documented in writing in the email. If it's too high, the email conversation ends there and you don't need to make a trip.
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Re: Lying Deceiving Misleading Dealerships!!!!
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I understand your frustration but must think out load that this has really been the norm since I first started buying new cars, the stealer ship always tries to get deeper in ones wallet. And people are probably more easy with it now with all the free credit and fake rebates. I hope it works out for you. I sold my 06 truck thinking i could buy a 2020 ram based on what i saw on the ole innerweb, boy was i wrong, cant buy the trucks for the price you see in the listings on cars.com or autotrader, according to the dealerships those sites set the prices for them, WHAT?!!!!!, what a friggn joke this has turned into, i have not bought a new vehicle in 14 years and things sure have changed and not for the good, it was bad enough then, im sure this is nothing new but for me it is, i could continue this rant with a couple thousand words on what has taken place, but i think i will avoid the long reads.
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