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07/02/20 01:17 PM
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Supposedly the large dust cloud is headed towards the eastern part of the country this week. Affecting anyone yet?

https://www.newsweek.com/what-states-sahara-dust-plume-hit-1513391

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I need Moparts members to sign my petition to get the EPA to locate, then arrest, Mother Nature
who allegedly created this near record breaking cloud of pollution,
which also contains spores of deadly fungi that even kills coral reef animals.

If this big cloud of Sahara dust prevents Katrina-like Hurricanes forming in the next couple weeks,
then we also need all off road driving enthusiasts to bring their vehicles to drive around the Sahara during Hurricane season in the Atlantic, especially on the three huge dry lake beds in the Sahara that Geologists say were full of water 15,000 years ago. {Drivers of VW Touregs especially welcome, if you catch my drift}

Do not ask me about my Go Fund Me project to drop a few dozen massive “Daisy Cutter” propane bombs from C130 rear cargo doors onto just the right uninhabited spots in the Sahara.....

Enjoy the red sunsets.

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I am a big believer in man's short sighted never ending quest to improve on mother nature. My first lesson moving to Florida and the name of the game was to "drain" the Everglades, straighten/deepen the rivers feeding Lake Okeechobee. Well that resulted in starving the acquirer leading to annual water shortages and salt water intrusion of shore line wells, and the river straightening led to gross pollution/sediment loads from the up river farms causing huge and nasty lake algae blooms, fish kills, etc. Man needs to to live within his limits, eventually.

Having been around hurricanes for over 6 decades, few seem to understand and appreciate the real function they likely serve the planet, but not man. I use the heated pot of water example. The universe seeks equilibrium and balance. When the water gets too hot on the bottom of the pot, and the heat applied can't equalize fast enough by normal circulation, the water forms a high energy steam bubble, and it quickly takes the high energy steam to the top surface and dissipates that extra energy, much faster them liquid water just heating up the air in contact with the waters surface.

Hurricanes IMO effectively do the same thing. They take an enormous amount of stored thermal energy from the ocean near the equator, and move it northward into cooler areas, all to quickly assist in finding equilibrium. Its a well know fact ocean temps drop immediately after the path of a hurricane.

Sahara dust inhibits hurricane formation, and I suspect actually increases the thermal heating of the ocean waters. Meaning, we may not be having hurricanes, but the water temps may be increasing higher/faster then normal, potentiality leading to stronger future hurricanes at the least for this season.

This might trully be the quiet before the storm.

https://www.seatemperature.org/

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I need to clarify, ocean temp decline post hurricane is also effected by the hurricanes wind induced churning of thermoclines. Regardless, the law of conservation of energy still applies, meaning an avg hurricane per day, releases the equivalent of 200 days with of world's electrical output


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07/03/20 02:12 PM
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I was only interested in seeing if anyone living on that side of the county was seeing if their air quality/ visibility was being affected yet.

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Originally Posted by Neil
I was only interested in seeing if anyone living on that side of the county was seeing if their air quality/ visibility was being affected yet.


Well then specifically, I can see pretty well right now thru my un shuttered windows partly because of the Saharan dust, and when the Saharan dust finally departs, I not sure how long my windows will remain to see thru, shuttered or not. grin

Ah shucks, the Saharan dust effect has seen here since I have been in Florida since the 50's, but this is the most pronounced dust storm I can remember. Besides the sun sets, it will be interesting what might become of this event.


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Ok, I'd just never heard of this phenomenon before.

I figured if it was something noteworthy if it was making the news. Often they make this stuff out to be a huge deal before it happens (like hurricanes etc.) and then it turns out to be nowhere near what they anticipated.

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Originally Posted by Neil
I was only interested in seeing if anyone living on that side of the county was seeing if their air quality/ visibility was being affected yet.

Yes, it did. A real large cloud area that ended up making it overcast looking. Also working outside gave me a nasal drip to almost cold-like from it.
Came up out the Gulf as a Real Rain Strom would. Looked like a large weather storm would look on radar


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It definitely came here. As JCC said, I wonder if it is heating up the Sahara this much this early in the season what does that imply for later in the season. Sea surface temperatures are already high.

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Looks like the experts are upping their hurricane season predictions after the start of the hurricane season, due to rising ocean temps among other things.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/weather/hurricane-season-2020-forecast-update/index.html

I'll make sure all my insurance policies are all up to date.


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Already up to F, Fay is out there now, just off North Carolina. Usually your insurance coverage does not allow upgrading within 48 hours of expected arrival so get your sorry ass in gear.... smile
Right now staying a tropical storm running up the coast is the prediction. If it drifts farther offshore there would be less land interference so could up intensity but either way there will likely be increased storm surge and beach erosion at a minimum.


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