Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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Can anyone tell me the pros and cons of tool steel flat tappet lifters? Looking at Howards tool steel, extreme duty and their lite weight lifters. all have direct oiling, but i'm really interested in the tool steel if they don't cause any issues with cam lobes. Thanks Dont do it , the reasons that Dwayne describes for my failure is IT. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2402051/flat-cam.html
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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Pro's would be much less expensive than GOOD roller lifters, Con's more expensive than conventional lifters(that seem more failure prone than in the past)
I have been using Trend/Barton tool steel lifters. (they're a little different than directly from trend as the body has no groove/space in the middle) No edm holes.
The same set have been used on 4 different cams in two different short blocks. I use either Schaffer's or Valvoline 10-30 racing oil with no additional additives.
Currently using Isky 8205 springs.....I'd have to check my notes, but I think they're around 150# closed and #430 open
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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What type of cam is used with the tool steel lifters? cast iron
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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What type of cam is used with the tool steel lifters? cast iron did you ever say what Howards told you about the cam? I don't see anything in your thread.
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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What type of cam is used with the tool steel lifters? cast iron did you ever say what Howards told you about the cam? I don't see anything in your thread. No, they wanted me to pay shipping to them & I was broke at the time, it was not the fault of Howards Cams, OR Trend lifters,it's just not something that works well for lots of street driving.
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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I remember a little while that there were several instances of camshafts wiping lobes. It was found that the lifters available were a very similar surface hardness, resulting in metal tranfer from one to the other and lifters failing. Hence why nitriding is now an option on camshafts, the lifters are softer, so they wear gradually over time. The hard lifters, the opposite is going to happen, but the guys buying them aren't too bothered. DLC coated lifters are another thing altogether.
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Re: Pro's and con's of tool steel lifters
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Whats some of the weights you finding? What does the TS lifter weigh? Any of you posters sitting on a set of TS small block units, used or? and want to dump them, pm me. I honestly don't know. I was looking at them because their lighter than the extreme duty lifters.
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