Used Torsion Bars:
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There was another thread going a month or so ago & I believe I asked this, but forgot to check back. On a car I'm restoring, I removed the original torsion bars & blasted & painted them, then reinstalled. BUT, I'm not sure if I got the sides correctly reinstalled. So my question is, should you always use NEW torsion bars on a resto, & if you re-use originals & mis-install them to where they are twisting the opposite direction, is there going to be a problem? Seems I heard years ago this is a big no-no!
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Re: Used Torsion Bars:
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Thanks for the replies. The thing is, I'm not sure if the bars were correctly (correct sides) installed in the car before I even removed them, so I was a bit baffled when I went to re-install them. As I recall, I think there is a "L" & a "R" on the bars. Both ends of the T-bars looked the same to me as well - in other words, there is not a designated front & a rear to a T-bar.
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Re: Used Torsion Bars:
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The most likely time I have heard/read about of that a TB fails, is simply sitting static, parked. Not sure other then a guess why (most time?). If they break in a corner at high speed next to the wall, you likely are going to contact the wall. Would I ever enjoy having a TB break, absolutely not, Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. But based on the chances of a TB failure happening ,based on the reports here over they years, especially with all the I suspect "nicked" with pliers TB's floating around, IMO you are more likely statistically to get and die from COVID then suffer a TB failure. The LCA doesn't really want to separate when moving forward during a TB failure, but it can, the main upset is the sudden collapse, alignment, loss of ride height and sudden infinite spring rate increase surprise for the driver, again, all bad and startling I suspect.
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Re: Used Torsion Bars:
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Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. I guess you think T bars only rotate in one direction, hint they don't. they are constantly rotating in both directions when in use.
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Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. I guess you think T bars only rotate in one direction, hint they don't. they are constantly rotating in both directions when in use. Kinda true but they are pre loaded in one direction for ride height so when the the front end rises completely it is still loaded in the same direction it doesn't reverse the bar.
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Re: Used Torsion Bars:
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Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. I guess you think T bars only rotate in one direction, hint they don't. they are constantly rotating in both directions when in use. Kinda not true. When installing them, the front control arms are down all the way, so when the T-Bars are installed & you let the car down, they are twisting in one direction only. Bring the suspension up off the ground again, they go to relaxed position. So after a life of twisting one way, if you go opposite on the twist, then it may be a different game. I don't know - it may not be an issue. It's almost a question for a metallurgist??
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Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. I guess you think T bars only rotate in one direction, hint they don't. they are constantly rotating in both directions when in use. They support the weight of the car....in one direction.
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Re: Used Torsion Bars:
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The most likely time I have heard/read about of that a TB fails, is simply sitting static, parked. Not sure other then a guess why (most time?). If they break in a corner at high speed next to the wall, you likely are going to contact the wall. Would I ever enjoy having a TB break, absolutely not, Putting them in reverse to previous use, causing rotation inducing reverse stress fatigue issues, is a no no. But based on the chances of a TB failure happening ,based on the reports here over they years, especially with all the I suspect "nicked" with pliers TB's floating around, IMO you are more likely statistically to get and die from COVID then suffer a TB failure. The LCA doesn't really want to separate when moving forward during a TB failure, but it can, the main upset is the sudden collapse, alignment, loss of ride height and sudden infinite spring rate increase surprise for the driver, again, all bad and startling I suspect. That’s exactly what happened to me. This was back in the day I was driving my Challenger to work. I got to work and the car was fine. I came out to the parking lot to find the front end on the drivers side extremely low. It didn’t take long to figure out what it is. I actually drove it home like that but very very slowly.
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