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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: DirectSubjection] #2783498
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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by AndyF


Yes it is amazing how that people cannot be allowed to gather together at church but it is fine to gather at a riot. This virus is so sneaky only our politicians understand how it works. Good thing they are so wise about keeping us all safe. Only they understand the ways of the sneaky virus.


Murphy in Jersey caught a lot of flack for this - hey look, he just announced churches can reopen with inside gatherings. All the sudden the virus isn't a problem there frog


Seems like Walmart has always been a safe haven from the Wuhan virus too..... Who would have believed a virus could be so selective.


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Originally Posted by John Brown


Seems like Walmart has always been a safe haven from the Wuhan virus too..... Who would have believed a virus could be so selective.





yes - I can be in Home Depot with a hundred people killing time and wandering around, but its not same to go into Michaels observing the proper safety measures


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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by John Brown


Seems like Walmart has always been a safe haven from the Wuhan virus too..... Who would have believed a virus could be so selective.

yes - I can be in Home Depot with a hundred people killing time and wandering around, but its not same to go into Michaels observing the proper safety measures

I never understood how they decided what could open, & what had to stay closed...
Especially here in PA where Wolf had final say, and many decisions made no sense at all.

If covid cases don't spike wildly by next week after all the protests, then everything should be open.

The one possible exception being Buffet's... pretty sure places around here like Hoss, Shady Maple & all the Chinese Buffet's are going to be some of the last to open... Many cruise lines have already stated they are going to do away with them... Not sure what Vegas Casino's are doing buffet wise.

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Originally Posted by Runner2go
Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by John Brown


Seems like Walmart has always been a safe haven from the Wuhan virus too..... Who would have believed a virus could be so selective.

yes - I can be in Home Depot with a hundred people killing time and wandering around, but its not same to go into Michaels observing the proper safety measures

I never understood how they decided what could open, & what had to stay closed...
Especially here in PA where Wolf had final say, and many decisions made no sense at all.

If covid cases don't spike wildly by next week after all the protests, then everything should be open.

The one possible exception being Buffet's... pretty sure places around here like Hoss, Shady Maple & all the Chinese Buffet's are going to be some of the last to open... Many cruise lines have already stated they are going to do away with them... Not sure what Vegas Casino's are doing buffet wise.


Vegas buffets are not open even tho there is no evidence of Covid19 spreading thru food


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From the Mayo clinic:

"Food containers and packaging. There's no evidence of anyone contracting the virus that causes COVID-19 after touching food containers and food packaging."

"Swimming pools, hot tubs and water playgrounds There's no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads through swimming pools, hot tubs and water playgrounds."


National Academies: There are no reports to date of people catching the novel coronavirus from eating food or handling food packaging.


I love going to Arby's and wendy;s drive thrus and getting Nathan's to take out.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: AndyF] #2783563
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by HotRodDave
The virus has conveniently changed to reduce it's spread during the riots, my guess is that as soon as the riots go down the spread by asymptomatic carriers will go back up to keep folks from going back to church.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain&fbclid=IwAR0o6IoDgUZ3z1ElT1ZJYBO2glV3v8BDukNTQIswkkTD_IyzLM7Gyp-3rug


Yes it is amazing how that people cannot be allowed to gather together at church but it is fine to gather at a riot. This virus is so sneaky only our politicians understand how it works. Good thing they are so wise about keeping us all safe. Only they understand the ways of the sneaky virus.


Your satire is not lost on me, however best to my knowledge, no one has died by not attending church.
The rioting you note is a statistically very small subset of the lawful protests objecting to dying by the disclosure of an unconscionable video recorded 8+min neck restraint death, and that rioting is likely fed to a rabidness media addicted public as click bait, but then what else is new. Granted, across the nation, nearly everyone is on uncharted ground as to what is the best path. However, in most cases, contrary what many want to promote, I believe their efforts are sincere for the sake of public safety, even if some are stupid, nobody yet is dying in record numbers from over caution .




Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2783565
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
/\ and the sheeple obey


If you are even implying I am a member of the "sheep" subset, you don't know me very well, and I believe "knowledge is power" biggrin


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Originally Posted by jcc


If you are even implying I am a member of the "sheep" subset, you don't know me very well,


Pac had it right...It wasn't merely implied...It was clearly stated...

Change my mind...


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Meanwhile as California relaxes social distancing

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No real surprise, the WHO butchered that statement about asymptomatic transmission.
https://arstechnica.com/science/202...ic-covid-comments-heres-what-they-meant/


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2783631
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As early as August 2019
Wuhan resident’s internet searches hint that COVID-19 might have already been circulating locally.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-coronavirus-emerged-summer.html

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A team led by Elaine Nsoesie at Boston University analyzed 111 satellite images from Wuhan between January 2018 to April 2020, as well as frequently looked up symptoms on the Chinese search engine Baidu.

"A steep increase in volume starting in August 2019" was detected at Wuhan hospital parking lots, "culminating with a peak in December 2019," the authors wrote.

Because queries for the word "cough" rise along with yearly influenza seasons, they also looked for "diarrhea" which is a more COVID-19 specific symptom.

"In August, we identify a unique increase in searches for diarrhea which was neither seen in previous flu seasons or mirrored in the cough search data," the team said.

While respiratory symptoms are the most common hallmarks of SARS-CoV-2 infection, the study suggested that diarrhea "may play an important role in community transmission."

The authors concluded that while they could not definitively confirm that the data they documented was linked to the virus, it supported conclusions reached by other research.

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Edit: The Chinese Communist Party has reacted suspiciously quickly to the above article and called it nothing but propaganda

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Info from study on sailors on aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-navy-ship-outbreak-young-covid.html

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Social distancing measures mattered:
Sailors who took infection prevention measures were less likely to be infected.
Wearing a face mask lowered the risk from 81% to 56%;
avoiding common areas lowered risk from 67.5% to 54%;
and observing social distancing lowered risk from 70% to 55%, the researchers found.

"The findings reinforce the importance of non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as wearing a face covering, avoiding common areas, and observing social distancing to lower risk for infection in similar congregate living settings," the team led by CDC researcher Daniel Payne wrote.

Among 238 service members with previous or current SARS-CoV-2 infection who completed a survey,
194 (81.5%) reported one or more symptoms,
44 were asymptomatic,
and two were hospitalized for COVID-19.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2783640
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COVID mutating slowly

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JHU scientists say they have seen fewer than two dozen mutations between the current versions they are studying and original viral isolates from China, which is a very small number. "This means a vaccine will probably work against all of them," Timp says.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2783642
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Originally Posted by 360view
Info from study on sailors on aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-navy-ship-outbreak-young-covid.html

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Social distancing measures mattered:
Sailors who took infection prevention measures were less likely to be infected.
Wearing a face mask lowered the risk from 81% to 56%;
avoiding common areas lowered risk from 67.5% to 54%;
and observing social distancing lowered risk from 70% to 55%, the researchers found.

"The findings reinforce the importance of non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as wearing a face covering, avoiding common areas, and observing social distancing to lower risk for infection in similar congregate living settings," the team led by CDC researcher Daniel Payne wrote.

Among 238 service members with previous or current SARS-CoV-2 infection who completed a survey,
194 (81.5%) reported one or more symptoms,
44 were asymptomatic,
and two were hospitalized for COVID-19.

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I’m suspicious of that. I mean, the military offers REALLY GOOD experimental conditions as the ‘patients’ are under stricter control than most any other group (except perhaps inmates), but did they really have control groups for all those conditions? I doubt it.

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Train your brain to modify stress ?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-covid-stress-meltdown-brain.html

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Here's one technique:
First, briefly complain about what's bothering you. For example: "I can't stop beating myself up for all the things I have done wrong." This activates the reactive wire that has encoded a faulty response and makes rewiring possible.

Then, rapidly express emotions.
Start with a burst of anger,
which decreases stress and keeps the stressed "thinking brain" from becoming stuck in ruminating, zoning out or overanalyzing.

Notice that you can then stay present to your strong, stress-fueled negative emotions, which will then flow rapidly. You can talk yourself through them by finishing phrases like "I feel sad that …"; "I feel afraid that …"; or "I feel guilty that …"

That simple emotional release can ease your stress,
and the previously unconscious unreasonable expectation encoded in the circuit will appear in your conscious mind.

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Many age 80+ survive COVID-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-coronavirus-devastating-people-surviving.html

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Coronavirus often does not announce itself loudly in the elderly, a fact that allowed it to take hold in many nursing homes before anyone knew it was there. Instead of the classic symptoms we were all initially told to look for—fever, cough and shortness of breath—people over 80 often lose their appetites, develop diarrhea, or become confused, agitated or more subdued. Fevers over 99 are rare. Sabine von Preyss Friedman, medical director of 50 facilities in Seattle, including one with an early and large outbreak, has learned to look for very subtle changes. "People look at you sideways and they don't look right, you're doing a test," she said.

Doctors said some patients never have more than mild symptoms. Wright said some can go from no symptoms to death in a few hours. Others develop what appears to be an overreaction of the immune system, or cytokine storm, a few days into the infection. In all age groups, this is a hallmark of very serious illness. Elderly people who get this sick typically do not do well, doctors said.

George Anesi, a pulmonary and critical care doctor at Penn Medicine who sees only hospitalized patients, said that the virus is harder on people the older they are. Those with low blood-oxygen levels and high inflammation levels do the worst. Those whose problems are confined to their lungs fare much better than those with multi-organ failure.

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Originally Posted by skicker
Originally Posted by jcc


If you are even implying I am a member of the "sheep" subset, you don't know me very well,


Pac had it right...It wasn't merely implied...It was clearly stated...

Change my mind...


You mean "you can lead a horse to water, but you........." is no longer true, or are we sticking with "you can't fix............"

BTW, I seldom if ever try to change another's mind, that's often a waste of time, it's your mind, you are responsible for it, open or close it as you see fit, and leave me out of it.

Sheep need to be led, I don't, but then you apparently don't "know" me either. eyes






Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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3 stages to brain damage from covid-19 and a recommendation to get an MRI before leaving the hospital

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-stages-covid-brain-neurologists.html

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"We are learning that a significant number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients have various degrees of brain impairment. As a medical community, we need to monitor these patients over time as some of them may develop cognitive decline, attention deficit, brain fog, or Alzheimer's disease in the future. There is a lot we can do to promote brain healing in COVID-19 patients, but first we must understand the nature and severity of their neurological deficits. At the patient level, getting a baseline MRI before leaving the hospital is imperative so that we have a starting point to evaluate and treat them," explained Fotuhi.

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