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Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: Jeremiah] #27821
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the old race car thread was accidently lost due to a glitch in the board software

if you or anyone else can re-post some of those old pic's, it would be greatly appreciated

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: Ira] #27822
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I have no clue (Fred will testify to my senility) as to which pictures I posted and which pictures that I hid ??
But, if you are looking for Mopar Missile pictures, I might have them -

But HemiFred has a far larger collection of all Mopars than I do --- so barrage him with email requests

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and he is a lot nicer person than I am --- and has nothing better to do than search thru his thousands of photos -

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Hey Fred, post some pic's and I'll vote for you for mayor again in the next election

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Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE #27826
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Stewart / Fred,

What kind of RPM's were the Pro-Sotck cars leaving the line at in the early 70's?

Was there much drive train breakage then?
(what were the weak links)

Were they using a line lock?
(suspect there were no trans brakes then)?



B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html
B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/
Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: B Dartman] #27827
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7500 - 8000 --- no tires - single disc 10.5 clutch -- unless you had a Clutch-Flite - not much breakage

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Uncle Stewart,
Tell us the story about the first Motown Missile that Oldfield drove, concept, tricks, best E.T. and speed and please provide pictures.
Thanks

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: ASA1711] #27829
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Ah me children, lend my your ear and I shall relay a tale that is dear. At the beginning of time, when ProStock was near there were few drivers that people should fear. Sir Sox had risen to be King of the FourSpeeds that was clear - all one had to do was listen and hear. His shifts were fast, his stead was quick, his appearance so slick, and Sir Martin made it click.
The gods of Kingdom Chrysler declared that the end of his reign should be near. His dominance something to fear. To accomplish this task they recruited such a band of ruffians all dressed in black. And out of the darkness there did appear a Black Challenger for all to fear. For days of yore they anointed a driver of legend and lore - Barney Oldfield had returned to reign death and destruction all near and far - to even the score.
The task was formidable and the ruffians were small - but they made up with gall and [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] that surprised them all. During the night they did scrounge the halls of Chrysler engineering for those that had the bal_s to step up into the daylight and "crush the enemy like ants". The engine magician was named Teddy - and the lightening wizard was named Ron - the induction maestro was called Tweeker and the engineers were Sir Al and The Ghost - overseeing this motley krewe was the Grand Master so mild and meek that he wore glasses and had lace up shoes on his feet..
With slide rule in pocket and fire in their soul - they embarked on a task that was so bold. Alas as with all tales, there comes a time of failure and dejection for the band of ruffians. The weak link in their armor that high horsepower could not endure was the problems with a clutch mated with a Flite. Three speeds were not strong enough to overcome four on the floor.
So after a brave attempt that the gods did enjoy, it was with heavy heart that the ruffians returned to the palace with out a score. But if ye look on the roof of the first Missile ye shall see - the legends of letter that name the god that caused such grief. --- BC is not the name of a legendary Indian chief, it is the name of the car that caused such pain -- the god that did allow them to break everything near and far. BLACK CLOUD --

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE #27830
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Very good Stewart,

Are you implying that the Missile was built to minimize Sox's dominance? If true, that obviously didn't sit well with Sox and Martin. Why would Chrysler want to mess with their number one team?

What ever happened to the original Missile?

Have anymore pictures of that car Uncle Stewart?

Thanks again.

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: ASA1711] #27831
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It is hard to imply that the Missile was built to take out Sox - but one car was white and the other was black --- remember the old cowboy movies? And Chrysler did need a test bed to develop ProStock parts for ALL the factory racers. They beat themselves with the ClutchFlite. Fred knows more about where the original Missile car is, I think it has been restored. -- My picture files on the original Missile are thin.


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Thanks Stewart,
You are one cool dude.

How about it Uncle Fred. What do you know about the original Missile?
Pictures?


Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: ASA1711] #27833
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this is about all the Motown Missile photos I can find --- I might have even stolen some from Fred --- he is da man there

2694592-Missile.jpg (319 downloads)
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ASA1711 --- send me your email - either to my email or a PM --- I will send you some more photos

Stewart

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE #27835
06/12/06 10:42 PM
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Anybody post this Motown Missile photo yet?

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: Locomotion] #27836
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On the old photo thread yes -- the cover of the DC catalog --- I have one of those autographed by Dick O.

He is really a nice guy

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Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE #27838
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Fred, The last page pics in your Don Carlton section of the '73-'74 Motown Missle Duster are actually of Mike Fons. If I remember correctly, he bought the '72 'Cuda along with the name-rights to "Motown Missile". This Duster was his next car. That's when Carlton & company went to "Mopar Missile".

Re: CHRYSLER DRAG RACE HISTORY AND PEOPLE [Re: Locomotion] #27839
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It is my fault -- I throw myself on the mercy of the court --

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06/13/06 02:55 PM
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The court rules 50/50.
Stewart made an honest mistake (we're all human) and Fred didn't double-check.

lol

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