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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: mopar97] #2775904
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hi guys,

Today I have something good to report. I was able to free the jammed choke plate. HOORAY!!!!

Then I tried to start.... it was sooooo.... close, it wants to start, sooooo close.


I think we are onto something here.

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: stephen] #2775936
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If the choke was jammed shut the whole time, the gas is now in the oil and plenty of it. A stuck open choke is less headaches than stuck shut, big time.

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: buildanother] #2775946
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I can't imagine a stuck choke on an otherwise properly working carb causing THAT much fuel to get into the engine that it was squirting out the plug hole. It would be going out the exhaust as the engine turned over.


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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: CMcAllister] #2775957
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Are you running either a high performance fuel pump or an electric one? If so maybe you have too much pressure and you are flooding the cylinders.

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: 57Fury440] #2776066
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You may want to clean the spark plugs too. I am sure they are fuel fouled. Burn the tips with a lighter and clean them with brake clean. That may get it to fire up....


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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: mopar97] #2776096
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hi guys,

yesterday I pulled #1 and #3 plugs, they are bone dry. I didn't pull out others.

mechanical fuel pump, not electric.

I am charging the battery, will let it sit for a day or two, then try to start it again.

thanks,

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: stephen] #2776567
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Well, You got me hooked!!!

Please let us know the outcome, as I am sure that others are waiting for the first fire-up!!!

Mark

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: lockjaw-express] #2776687
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Well, You got me hooked! Please let us know the outcome, as I am sure that others are waiting for the first fire-up! Mark
X2!


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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: RapidRobert] #2776698
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make that x3 !
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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: lockjaw-express] #2776705
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The poster needs to hire a good mechanic for one hour and the car would be running.

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: NITROUSN] #2776951
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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
The poster needs to hire a good mechanic for one hour and the car would be running.
I disagree. This guy is in a steep learning curve and honest in his descriptions. When he has fixed the issue, he will be wiser and more talented, than if a mechanic fixes it and takes his money. Cudos to everybody who steps in to help him.

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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: BadMoonRacer] #2777001
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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: moparx] #2777876
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Anything yet?

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: moparx] #2778190
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Originally Posted by moparx
make that x3 !
beer


Make that x4! I am looking forward to hearing you got it running! Keep us posted.


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Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: LimelightCuda] #2779152
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What happened? Did you get it running?

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: mopar97] #2785510
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hi guys,

finally got some time this weekend, worked on the car a little bit.

was able to pry open the plate, it works fine now.

interesting new discovery: when throttling, the gas is not spraying from the jet, instead it is flowing like a facet. way too much gas. it wanted to start, but then always have big loud backfire.

it is a eldelbrok 4 barrel, there are two screws in the front to adjust air mixer, no matter what I do with them, still too much gas.

please help.

Re: Won't start, I am throwing in the towel [Re: stephen] #2785514
06/14/20 08:47 PM
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interesting new discovery: when throttling, the gas is not spraying from the jet, instead it is flowing like a facet.
bad needle/seat or float or float linkage & eddys dont like more than 5&1/2 lbs fuel psi & alot of OE pumps put out way more than that.


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