Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Does anyone else have results in this cam? Just installed one In my ramcharger and I am extremely impressed with the results. Just swapped from a 230@050 .525 on 112lsa hyd. roller to the trick flow cam. This motor made 490hp and 553tq originally. 9.98 to 1, ported sidewinders,rpm intake, 850 Holley, 1 3/4 headers. I only have seat of the pants to report but this thing now pulls much much harder surprisingly even down low from 2500 way snappier and has much more torque all the way through and pulls to 6k and seems to like 6500 shifts. I did not expect to gain more low mid range from this swap but it did and it feels significant. I purchased a 3600 converter to replace my 2k stall. I haven’t done the swap yet and I’m not sure it will even be necessary. I’ll likely do it anyways. But this much bigger cam did not hamper the torque down low it increased it. I can just roll into the throttle now at 25mph and it just starts hazing the 36” tires without any effort all the way through second. It didn’t do that before. I give this cam a 2 thumbs up. 👍 I feel this motor has to be making 580ft lbs and an easy 550hp. Cam is 243/247@050 .600/.600 108lsa with 104 centerline.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Which motor, LA or BB, how many C.I.?
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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We used it in a 470 low deck build with their 240 heads...rpm intake, it made excellent power.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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did you use the trick flow roller lifters and their springs as well? that looks like a really promising combo.
I believe the lifters are Howard’s and springs are isky 8005-A?! I believe they’re 400lbs In. Spring. I had the springs for a big solid cam from a different engine. They’re slightly less pressure than what trick flow recommends but they’re working just fine.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Wider LSA gets you less overlap, but, the intake valve closes later creating less stroke for compression. The idle would be a bit cleaner with the wider LSA, but the earlier valve closing pays bigger benefits using the same cam. Take a look at the cards and see where the intake closes on each of your cams at the recommended installed CL. I bet the @ .050 numbers are pretty close
You have it installed at 104 compared to wherever the 112 was installed. Smaller the installed number earlier the valve closes. You are also filling the cylinder better with any increases in lift and maximizing the curve.
Lots of variables.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Original grind which was supposed to be for a low comp 440 from Oregon cam grinders 230/239@050 .525/.534. 112lsa +4
Intake opens 7BTDC Intake close. 43ABDC Exhaust open. 56BBDC EXhaust close 4ATDC
NEW TRICK FLOW 243/246@050 .600/.600. 108lsa +4
Intake opens 44BTDC Intake closes 72ABDC Exhaust open 82BBDC Exhaust close 38ATDC
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Trick flow cam card must be fubar. Because I put cam specs in a calculator and I come up with different numbers. INTAKE OPEN 11BTDC. CLOSE 51ABDC EXHAUST CLOSE 66BBDC OPEN 11ATDC
But when I put in my old cam specs it matches the card.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Does anyone else have results in this cam? Just installed one In my ramcharger and I am extremely impressed with the results. Just swapped from a 230@050 .525 on 112lsa hyd. roller to the trick flow cam. This motor made 490hp and 553tq originally. 9.98 to 1, ported sidewinders,rpm intake, 850 Holley, 1 3/4 headers. I only have seat of the pants to report but this thing now pulls much much harder surprisingly even down low from 2500 way snappier and has much more torque all the way through and pulls to 6k and seems to like 6500 shifts. I did not expect to gain more low mid range from this swap but it did and it feels significant. I purchased a 3600 converter to replace my 2k stall. I haven’t done the swap yet and I’m not sure it will even be necessary. I’ll likely do it anyways. But this much bigger cam did not hamper the torque down low it increased it. I can just roll into the throttle now at 25mph and it just starts hazing the 36” tires without any effort all the way through second. It didn’t do that before. I give this cam a 2 thumbs up. 👍 I feel this motor has to be making 580ft lbs and an easy 550hp. Cam is 243/247@050 .600/.600 108lsa with 104 centerline. I have this combo in my 500" stroked 440. I'm using the TF 240's OOTB checked, but no changes... 10.75:1 and I love how this thing makes power. I even have my 6 pack setup on it and its not a bad street combo. I'm sure I'm leaving a bit on the table with the 6 pack intake but I'm happy!!!!! I used the Howards max effort lifters.... these hydraulic rollers are noisey but I can live with it....
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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Original grind which was supposed to be for a low comp 440 from Oregon cam grinders 230/239@050 .525/.534. 112lsa +4 Intake opens 7BTDC 7+180 degrees+43=250@.050, correct? Intake close. 43ABDC Exhaust open. 56BBDC56+180=4=260@.050, correct EXhaust close 4ATDC NEW TRICK FLOW 243/246@050 .600/.600. 108lsa +4 Intake opens 44BTDC 44+180=72=296 @.050 Intake closes 72ABDC Exhaust open 82BBDC 82+180+38=300 Exhaust close 38ATDC Me thinks the numbers on this card are for total duration or maybe at .020 lobe lift
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Re: Trick Flow Track Max camshaft
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The "@ .050" numbers for the Trick Flow camshaft are: ............ OPENS......... CLOSESIntake: 17.5° BTDC 45.5° ABDC 17.5 +180 + 45.5= 243 @ .050 Exhaust:: 55.5° BBDC. 11.5° ATDC 55.5+180+11.5 =247 @ .050, this sounds correct to me for a fairly big street cam
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