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I'm going to start the ramp truck build soon. I'd like to see some already built. I'm thinking 18 or 20 ft bed, tandem rear axles, the front rear diff would be on air and the truck would need to be 4x4. I have most everything to do the build except a 3/4 or 1 ton front diff. I'd like to see some ideas from trucks already finished.

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GOOSEer ... might I suggest 413,power ?

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Here's my '92 D-350 hauler. Most good conversions involve a 4-foot frame stretch.

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I'm lost as to why you want a tandem rear axle setup on a 4x4 chassis. It sure sounds like a lot of extra engineering, what kind of weight are you planning on hauling around? I would think having both rear axles being drive axles on a car hauler would be overkill, unless your hauling huge weight, even then, just adding a tag axle would help a bunch. Are you planning on doing 4x4 off road recovery? Gene

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One rear axle would be on air and a non drive axle, that would be the reason for 4x4. With an axle on air and non drive the truck would get hung up fairly easy without 4x4. Just thinking a tandem setup would just be kool.

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
GOOSEer ... might I suggest 413,power ?


I have a low mile 78 440 and a fresh set of 67 big valve 915 heads to bump up the compression. Should be a good combo. Later idea is a late model 6.7 and a 6 speed manual trans.

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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Here's my '92 D-350 hauler. Most good conversions involve a 4-foot frame stretch.


My plans have me adding 6ft of frame to it.

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What's the max gvw on the door tag?

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Originally Posted by Handygun
What's the max gvw on the door tag?


10k bit the suspension will be way heavier than stock.

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Originally Posted by kenworth_goose
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
GOOSEer ... might I suggest 413,power ?


I have a low mile 78 440 and a fresh set of 67 big valve 915 heads to bump up the compression. Should be a good combo. Later idea is a late model 6.7 and a 6 speed manual trans.


A stock 78 440 is a weak combo ... if you go that direction get the block sonic checked

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
GOOSEer ... might I suggest 413,power ?


I have a low mile 78 440 and a fresh set of 67 big valve 915 heads to bump up the compression. Should be a good combo. Later idea is a late model 6.7 and a 6 speed manual trans.


A stock 78 440 is a weak combo ... if you go that direction get the block sonic checked


Only thing weak is the compression and the closed chamber heads will take care of that.

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no NO ... the later model blocks are FAMOUS for being thin casting .., and those 67 heads ? ... under a heavy load you can TORCH EM !

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My old ramp truck was a 93 3500 dually to begin with. PO made the frame extension and got a Hodges bed and built the frame to bolt it on.

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
no NO ... the later model blocks are FAMOUS for being thin casting .., and those 67 heads ? ... under a heavy load you can TORCH EM !
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Originally Posted by kenworth_goose
Originally Posted by Handygun
What's the max gvw on the door tag?


10k bit the suspension will be way heavier than stock.



Ultimately it does not matter what the suspension is capable of... what will matter with the DOT in (you pick the state) is what the door tag says, That is why you see fewer and fewer (pick up based) ramp trucks. Here in the land of Taxes its approx $150 for the first 1-1000 Lbs of over weight,and goes up from there. Not including the impound, towing and all the other assessments they make once they find the first "cause" The second axle will need to have brakes equal to the first axle. BTW these are not NYS DOT regs but FED regs. If you dont plan on leaving you local area you may be fine but once you get out into the bustling metropolis its game on. twocents
I used to have a Ramp truck (late '80s) 10000lbs door tag but 13000lbs going down the road loaded. Nice well maintained truck and could carry a Bulldozer (on more than on occasion) but stopping was another issue.
Those days are behind us...


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Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
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Originally Posted by Handygun
What's the max gvw on the door tag?


10k bit the suspension will be way heavier than stock.



Ultimately it does not matter what the suspension is capable of... what will matter with the DOT in (you pick the state) is what the door tag says, That is why you see fewer and fewer (pick up based) ramp trucks. Here in the land of Taxes its approx $150 for the first 1-1000 Lbs of over weight,and goes up from there. Not including the impound, towing and all the other assessments they make once they find the first "cause" The second axle will need to have brakes equal to the first axle. BTW these are not NYS DOT regs but FED regs. If you dont plan on leaving you local area you may be fine but once you get out into the bustling metropolis its game on. twocents
I used to have a Ramp truck (late '80s) 10000lbs door tag but 13000lbs going down the road loaded. Nice well maintained truck and could carry a Bulldozer (on more than on occasion) but stopping was another issue.
Those days are behind us...


None of this matters as it will be a Not For Hire project. I'm very much up on the knowledge needed for such a project. It will be way over built as with all of my truck and trailer projects. If I were to de a tandem the dead axle would be equipped with electric brakes. I hate to see units going down the road knowing they can't handle what they are towing or hauling. I'm a long time cdl-a driver, wreckmaster certified in towing and recovery as well as being an ASE certified tech in auto and trailer service and repair. I have built several trailers in the past. This truck will also tow a trailer. Trailer will have 3 3500lb axles as well as brakes on all 3 axles. I always use at least a 4 point tie down with anything on my trailers. The ramp truck will be no different. Actually I will use more when strapping down a vehicle on the ramp truck simply because I don't want something running over the cab with me in it. I will build a truck with the capability to do the job safely. And also being non commercial you can through any over weight tickets out the window as long as I'm under 26001 lbs.

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Originally Posted by kenworth_goose
Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
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Originally Posted by Handygun
What's the max gvw on the door tag?


10k bit the suspension will be way heavier than stock.



Ultimately it does not matter what the suspension is capable of... what will matter with the DOT in (you pick the state) is what the door tag says, That is why you see fewer and fewer (pick up based) ramp trucks. Here in the land of Taxes its approx $150 for the first 1-1000 Lbs of over weight,and goes up from there. Not including the impound, towing and all the other assessments they make once they find the first "cause" The second axle will need to have brakes equal to the first axle. BTW these are not NYS DOT regs but FED regs. If you dont plan on leaving you local area you may be fine but once you get out into the bustling metropolis its game on. twocents
I used to have a Ramp truck (late '80s) 10000lbs door tag but 13000lbs going down the road loaded. Nice well maintained truck and could carry a Bulldozer (on more than on occasion) but stopping was another issue.
Those days are behind us...


None of this matters as it will be a Not For Hire project. I'm very much up on the knowledge needed for such a project. It will be way over built as with all of my truck and trailer projects. If I were to de a tandem the dead axle would be equipped with electric brakes. I hate to see units going down the road knowing they can't handle what they are towing or hauling. I'm a long time cdl-a driver, wreckmaster certified in towing and recovery as well as being an ASE certified tech in auto and trailer service and repair. I have built several trailers in the past. This truck will also tow a trailer. Trailer will have 3 3500lb axles as well as brakes on all 3 axles. I always use at least a 4 point tie down with anything on my trailers. The ramp truck will be no different. Actually I will use more when strapping down a vehicle on the ramp truck simply because I don't want something running over the cab with me in it. I will build a truck with the capability to do the job safely. And also being non commercial you can through any over weight tickets out the window as long as I'm under 26001 lbs.



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anyone ever built one out of an 18 ram?

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