Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: srt]
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05/24/20 08:10 PM
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It was strange on the evening news tonight to hear of a sports player that died of natural causes. Someone will probably get fired over that one.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/24/20 08:40 PM
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AndyF
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. 52,000 deaths above average in the USA according to the Financial Times data set. Others might quibble with the numbers but I would imagine the FT numbers are pretty good. In Oregon we're about 2% above average. On an average day in Oregon the death rate was around 100 people per day. Now it is running around 102 people per day. So not a very large increase in Oregon. NY had a big jump up from average deaths but other states have had zero impact to their average daily death rates. https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/24/20 08:43 PM
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AndyF
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. Here is the Oregon death rate data. They provide historical data so you can look at a three year average or a five year average to compare to 2020. It isn't very scary when you look at the graph: https://public.tableau.com/profile/oha.center.for.health.statistics#!/vizhome/OregonHealthAuthorityCenterforHealthStatisticsWeeklydeathgraph/Dash-weeklydeaths
Last edited by AndyF; 05/24/20 08:43 PM.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 01:09 AM
05/25/20 01:09 AM
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Jjs72D
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. Excellent idea. My suspicion is that the overall death count will be less this year as compared to 2019.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 09:24 AM
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360view
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35% of all those infected with COVID-19 do not show symptoms. 0.4% is for all ages combined is the fatality rate for COVID-19, for the 65% of those that first show symptoms says USA CDC after quite complicated analysis. Ages 65+ fatality rate for those who show symptoms is 1.3% Ages 65+ “have to go to the hospital for treatment” rate is 7.4% Ages 0-49 fatality rate for those who show symptoms is a very low 0.05% which is about half the normal yearly average influenza fatality rate. Note in the report “ratios” rather than percentages are given so that there is a factor of hundred difference. Example: 0.01 is given rather than 1% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
Last edited by 360view; 05/26/20 05:01 AM. Reason: Percents from ratios
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 11:29 AM
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Major effect of today’s flu vaccines is to greatly lessen your chance of dying, even though vaccinated still have 40 to 60% chance of some milder episode of flu illness. There is a fear that future COVID-19 vaccines will turn out similar: less death but still an episode of illness.... https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/22...m_term=0_8cab1d7961-ff37996f74-152004137
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 11:32 AM
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pittsburghracer
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I’m on the they would have to force me to get a vaccine list. Then again I don’t get the yearly vaccines that they push every year either.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 11:40 AM
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hooziewhatsit
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. Excellent idea. My suspicion is that the overall death count will be less this year as compared to 2019. ehh, I'm not so sure. CDC deaths/excess deaths charts: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 12:37 PM
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Runner2go
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. Excellent idea. My suspicion is that the overall death count will be less this year as compared to 2019. ehh, I'm not so sure. CDC deaths/excess deaths charts: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm So based on reading how the CDC came up with that chart for this year, it's basically weighted guesswork, based on all the other inaccurate numbers reported this year. Real numbers are not going to be anywhere near as high as that chart shows in the end, if they use accurate numbers (assuming they ever get any)... For one... if the numbers shown in that chart ARE anywhere close to being accurate, then covid deaths would be in the 100's of thousands already. Look at the 2018 figures when flu/pneumonia killed between 60-80k by this time... and compare it to this year when flu/pneumonia already killed 24k, and was projected to hit 60k when the CDC decided to stop counting, plus 100k covid(they say) that roughly 45-50k difference... Yet 2018 was a normal year... with normal traffic deaths & average murder rates. While official counts won't be available for 2 or 3 yrs... every news report I've seen says so far murder rates Feb-May are way down. Even the gangs aren't killing each other as often, and traffic deaths are virtually non-existent, since no one was driving in March & April... (So far so, that car Insurance Companies are actually giving people money BACK) I'm sure people are still dying of natural causes (heart attack/stoke/old age/falls)... but accidental deaths from Factories, Construction & Elective Surgeries are going to be way down, because most factories & construction stopped, and there have been no Elective Surgeries for 2+months.... So Covid would have to be making up for all of those normal expected deaths.... PLUS virus deaths to get the big increase it is showing... I'm not buying it. Although I'm sure suicides are going to start ramping up in April-June... as people who have lost it all because of our Governors mismanagement over lock-down rules, throw in the towel. (My wife's bummed because she stopped by the strip mall where she gets her nails done, to see if there was a reopening date posed, and instead found the place cleaned out, and some guys inside removing all the chairs & tables) We are starting to see various forms of signs on a lot of small businesses in the area, that state things like "Thank you for you business, but we are closed for good" or "After XXyrs We're Done" or " You Wolf"... It's sad and was completely unnecessary. The elderly could have been protected (almost everyone did it better than NY, PA, NJ & MI) without destroying the State's economy completely...
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 01:28 PM
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360view
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I would like to see the number of all deaths in the US no mater the cause for April 2019 vs April 2020. I think this would give a more accurate picture of what impact Covid-19 has had. Excellent idea. My suspicion is that the overall death count will be less this year as compared to 2019. ehh, I'm not so sure. CDC deaths/excess deaths charts: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Use the drop down menu to change United States to New York City Then change to Florida Then change to Utah
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 02:41 PM
05/25/20 02:41 PM
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jcc
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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Sure, right after you post a picture of your car. This is a car forum primarily. Exactly what would a picture of my car achieve on a COVID thread?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/25/20 02:43 PM
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jcc
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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What we have here is a virus sapping not only lives, but common decency from our country. A unifying voice tempering the despair, a cease of accusations and a clear plan to deal with the pandemic would go far to heal our country. Too much damage is occurring and the path out of this mess is obstructed by failures. Self reflection was usually not thought of as a high priority during the Decline of the Roman Empire, I have read.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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