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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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05/13/20 05:39 PM
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Al_Alguire
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I have been running Titanium wheel studs for a very long time with no issues at all. Yes they are not legal for fuel and F/c but a lot of other things are not as well. You would have hard time finding many comp guy NOT using them. FWIW we lost 2.2lbs going form steel to titanium (studs and nuts)and my steel studs were exactly even with the nuts and the titanium ones could use a 3/4" trimming. I also have titanium fasteners on the bead locks, mine came that way but we switched the Vette over to titanium studs, and beadlock hardware and lost almost 10lbs. The dragster now has titanium nuts and bolts all over it as well. It ads up quick and will kill your pocket book just as fast. The drive stud kits were about $200 a side.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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05/13/20 06:21 PM
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The driver's weight will vary from day-to-day more than the weight savings of Ti lugs. Most of the savings being in the drivers wallet?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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05/14/20 01:31 PM
05/14/20 01:31 PM
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we switched the Vette over to titanium studs, and beadlock hardware and lost almost 10lbs. What difference did that make in the time slip?
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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05/14/20 01:57 PM
05/14/20 01:57 PM
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Well it was not the only changes made to the Stratus as I went to a Weld Delta as well so the car lost 22 total pounds. On the Vette who knows either as the changes were made in the off season and engine is refined every year as well, we did make our best run ever at the very first race, second pass but the new headers and engine changes were likely most of that..
On our dragster again I will have no idea. It has a totally new engine combo which I had to buy used and freshen with some changes. I could not get a block so had to do something. It has lost about 45lbs total off of it but has an engine with a TON more torque but not a lot more HP. But again it was a low 7 second car so who knows what will show up on the slip. Someday we might get to find out but not looking like it will be in 2020
When you are running low 7's like my car does a few pounds here or there really don't show much change at all. But a few pounds here and a few pounds there ad up to a fair amount and that was the goal on my car. As for the Vette we are still trying to get down to minimum weight for the class with it. SO anything we can do is a plus, but again the engine, trans and gearing get refined all the time. For this year the heads went back for more work, namely a larger intake valve. Which could only happen by moving the exhaust valve over. Also the exhaust port got some refinements as well. The Proflight also has an entirely new set up for this year, new pump and gearing. If we ever get to run this year we will see how it goes. But could not tell you what will happen. We expect more power from the engine and the gearing and pump changes should help realize the power we have better, but all speculation til we run the car. Shedding pounds this year with a liter weight driving suit, that's almost 8lbs lighter.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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05/14/20 02:56 PM
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I worked on a Nostalgia Pro Street Camaro years ago. Part of my job included ordering Ti fasteners for the car. The big thing I remember is the guy writing a check for $1500 for Ti, and it saved 3 pounds off the car.  They were looking everywhere to get to minimum weight so they could run N/A in a nitrous class.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: jcc]
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05/14/20 03:16 PM
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Enema + nausea + don't wear socks + shave head + leave false teeth on the sink = bigger savings.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: polyspheric]
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05/14/20 10:17 PM
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If all out weight savings was the goal with off the shelf TI stuff, wouldn't Ti rods be good candidate, bang for the buck? HP and lbs?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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05/15/20 09:48 AM
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Well it was not the only changes made to the Stratus as I went to a Weld Delta as well so the car lost 22 total pounds. On the Vette who knows either as the changes were made in the off season and engine is refined every year as well, we did make our best run ever at the very first race, second pass but the new headers and engine changes were likely most of that..
On our dragster again I will have no idea. It has a totally new engine combo which I had to buy used and freshen with some changes. I could not get a block so had to do something. It has lost about 45lbs total off of it but has an engine with a TON more torque but not a lot more HP. But again it was a low 7 second car so who knows what will show up on the slip. Someday we might get to find out but not looking like it will be in 2020
When you are running low 7's like my car does a few pounds here or there really don't show much change at all. But a few pounds here and a few pounds there ad up to a fair amount and that was the goal on my car. As for the Vette we are still trying to get down to minimum weight for the class with it. SO anything we can do is a plus, but again the engine, trans and gearing get refined all the time. For this year the heads went back for more work, namely a larger intake valve. Which could only happen by moving the exhaust valve over. Also the exhaust port got some refinements as well. The Proflight also has an entirely new set up for this year, new pump and gearing. If we ever get to run this year we will see how it goes. But could not tell you what will happen. We expect more power from the engine and the gearing and pump changes should help realize the power we have better, but all speculation til we run the car. Shedding pounds this year with a liter weight driving suit, that's almost 8lbs lighter. WHAT most fail to realize is....ounces add up to lbs, lbs add up to hundreds of lbs. Of course the TI wheel studs don't effect the ET, BUT when you add up all the savings, then it effects the ET. Cars get light a little at a time, every thing you take off the car eventually makes it faster/quicker. Its a mindset towards the goal....LOL
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: jcc]
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05/15/20 02:10 PM
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If all out weight savings was the goal with off the shelf TI stuff, wouldn't Ti rods be good candidate, bang for the buck? HP and lbs? They did make titanium rods and still do. They are very cost prohibitive and have to be replaced at fairly short intervals, more than aluminum rods actually. They came about when pro stock did not have a weight limit on the reciprocating assemblies. Now they have a minimum weight rule so everyone is using a steel rod these days. GRP will still make you a titanium rod but given the short life span they are cost prohibitive. It aint like buying some bolts for a couple hundred dollars, we are talking thousands more. Tony is 100% correct. Weight savings are found EVERYWHERE. Even if you cannot afford titanium fasteners id be willing to bet almost everyone here has more bolt in many places than they need. You would be surprised how much weight you can get out of a car just removing the unneeded length of bolt on your car. Not to mention things like aluminum bolts for areas with no load, like holding your front fenders on.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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05/15/20 05:02 PM
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Interesting. But on Ti rods, I thought the top end OEM Vettes had factory Ti rods.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: n20mstr]
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05/16/20 09:24 AM
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"WHAT most fail to realize is"
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: n20mstr]
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05/16/20 01:02 PM
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WHAT most fail to realize is....ounces add up to lbs, lbs add up to hundreds of lbs
Anybody who ever raced knows that weight equals performance but at what cost? When does the dollar cost of a couple of pounds become impractical?
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Re: who makes 1/2-20 Titanium wheel studs?
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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05/16/20 08:51 PM
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WHAT most fail to realize is....ounces add up to lbs, lbs add up to hundreds of lbs
Anybody who ever raced knows that weight equals performance but at what cost? When does the dollar cost of a couple of pounds become impractical? If you class race ....cost doesn’t matter . There are easy ways sure but eventually it cost a lot . Depends on if Your willing to pay a a lot for less (weight) lol
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