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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2752421
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it.


That's the way I see it, too. Media-induced mass hysteria. Influenza took over 27,000 people last year. Corona Virus so far has taken 108. Apparently, only the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems and lung issues need seriously worry. But then, look at how many elderly pneumonia takes each year.

What really pisses me off is they've Cancelled the Portland Swap Meet this year!! Both the Expo and PIR are CANCELLED. I look forward to that every year as it's one of few times I get to escape back to civilization.

I suppose luckily for me, back in January, my retarded former employer decided all his problems would go away by firing me. He did have to pay me out nearly 20 large as I'd been at the store almost a decade. When he told me I wasn't going to get my bonus, I slugged the SOB. But that's a whole other story....

So, I've been at home for 2-months living happily off my windfall, catching up on projects and generally being way happier than I used to be. I wish winter were over, that's for sure. But not having to work in a public place anymore with this crazy bug going around.... the idiot did me a favor!


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2752422
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it.

Probably not lethal to an otherwise healthy person. The problem is those healthy people pass it on to people that have underlying medical conditions and the elderly. Consider this, the virus was first identified in one province in China in late November. In less than 4 months it has spread around the entire earth. So when you say things like that what you are really saying is, so what? It's OK that the sick and elderly die.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: not_a_charger] #2752423
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The CDC, WHO, and every infectious disease expert on the planet seem to disagree with all of the people who have recently earned Facebook medical degrees, so I'll go with the views of the former.

Here's the story of how the virus spread in South Korea. 1 person. That's it. That's all it took.

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html



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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: not_a_charger] #2752427
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shutting down large events is the right thing to do.

learn from history.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: not_a_charger] #2752432
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We should face this with the courage our grandparents and greatgrandparents showed in 1918.

Follow the advice from Dr Fauci in order to free up the USA number of advanced hospital beds and ventilators.

After this is over
strongly urge the powers that be
to fund the Army and Navy to have field hospitals and hospital ships
with enough advanced beds to match what
South Korea has in their system.
The cost of this added equipment will be far less than 1% of the cost of slowing down our vast USA economy with “Social Distancing.”

Why do the South Koreans have this larger capacity of hospital beds?
Because of the constant threat of
surprise attack from North Korea
with Nuclear, Chemical and
BIOLOGICAL weapons.

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Guitar Jones] #2752438
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Its hit bottom here They just closed the Casino up the road from us.Have to wonder how hard it was to get people out.Thats especially if they were on a winning machine.Rocky


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: therocks] #2752439
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The CDC, WHO, and every infectious disease expert on the planet seem to disagree with all of the people who have recently earned Facebook medical degrees, so I'll go with the views of the former.
Yep, It is called common sense. Some don`t have any.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2752444
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It does seem a bit odd that they are closing everything ..

I went to town about 15 miles from me, small grocery store but always clean and tidy ..even the crazies had wiped that store out, she said they had came from as far as 100 miles to buy all the TP ..nuts


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: bigdad] #2752447
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Guitar Jones] #2752477
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Did I hear correctly the being passed paid sick leave act exempts companies with over 500 workers? eek


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2752483
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Originally Posted by jcc
Did I hear correctly the being passed paid sick leave act exempts companies with over 500 workers? eek

looks like it: Bill <- Click Unless ammended

Re the 1918 Pandemic there was a lot of unintentional social distancing with few cars, few roads and thoroughfares, lots of farms and relatively small population compared with today.

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Guitar Jones] #2752487
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it.

Probably not lethal to an otherwise healthy person. The problem is those healthy people pass it on to people that have underlying medical conditions and the elderly. Consider this, the virus was first identified in one province in China in late November. In less than 4 months it has spread around the entire earth. So when you say things like that what you are really saying is, so what? It's OK that the sick and elderly die.


what I want to know is, what is the difference between this virus and every other flu and pneumonia virus that is continually circulating, killing tens of thousands of people in our country every year? Why is this the one that has to have the major panic and over-reaction? Why not any of the others?

Did Tom Hanks die?


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2752488
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I think the Northern Italy private party open air balcony Opera serenades are quaint and make for good press on the nightly news.

But I'd be damned if I want to be on my balcony during a national pandemic quarantine with nearby neighbors of unknown COVID status singing their lungs out for their 15 minutes of fame.

Hope this doesn't catch on in our inner cities.

Just sayin.

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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: srt] #2752490
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Originally Posted by srt
I've been sequestered at home with my wife because of her knee replacement in erly feb, and am glad I have.
I've finally talked sense to three of our adult children, while the other two (smokers) continue throw caution to the wind.
As I understand from reading and talking with two doctors is the virus effects ones lungs. Reduced lung capacity and scarring are the immediate effect and residual diminished lung capacity may likely be the toll on any individual. Effects seem to balance on the condition of ones lungs going into an infection.
Lets all be safe and considerate of others. Taking an attitude of "young enough" may cost one their life. I'll respect the experts and hope a majority of us get through this.
Let's also hope it was not created in some lab to be a super bug. Whatever it is, it appears to be widespread and well rooted in the populace. How the heck did that happe? Humanity has been forever changed, we will wake up tomorrow and this will be worse. It's real and frankly it's scary. I have not yet wrapped my head around economic effects and can only think dark thoughts on that.
I hope with additional tests there may be a way to corral hot spots to give science time to develop a vaccine. That is the best for now.


The following is from a doctor friend of mine in NY - just got this this AM:

Eric,

That is so funny but true!

So in response to a few emails ago- yes remdesrivir may have activity against this virus- and I am certain it will be tried in sicker patients.

There are a few other drugs that may be effective as well- at least in mitigating some of the symptoms.

In addition- the first human test patient will be vaccinated today. This is unbelievable. Talk about red tape being eliminated. They went from isolating the protein structure of this to making a vaccine to be tested in under 4 months. It will be limited- but I imagine will be widespread by the late fall/early winter at this pace.


Stay safe!


Jim


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2752493
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it.

Probably not lethal to an otherwise healthy person. The problem is those healthy people pass it on to people that have underlying medical conditions and the elderly. Consider this, the virus was first identified in one province in China in late November. In less than 4 months it has spread around the entire earth. So when you say things like that what you are really saying is, so what? It's OK that the sick and elderly die.


what I want to know is, what is the difference between this virus and every other flu and pneumonia virus that is continually circulating, killing tens of thousands of people in our country every year? Why is this the one that has to have the major panic and over-reaction? Why not any of the others?

Did Tom Hanks die?


Fair question. Here is a comparison from the former director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/heal...u-comparison-frieden-analysis/index.html


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Originally Posted by Dave_J
As of 9 PM my wife was still sick with headache, sore throat and fever of 99.4F
I am headache, sore throat, chest pain and 99.2F fever. Not high enough to go for Covid-19 testing.

So not knowing what hit us Sunday morning we are quarantining in place.


This SAME thing (symptoms of yours) went through my family the middle of Feb. My youngest daughter (25) got it first - low grade fevers for first 3 days, dry cough, generally feeling lousy all over. Then she started feeling better & was fine a week later. Then I started feeling it on Sunday 2/16. Felt LOUSY all the following week - low grade fevers all week, dry cough, sore lungs (something I've never felt before) for 3 weeks, a little bit of a sore throat & sore ears. I went to my doctor on Sat. 2/22. They did blood work, chest X-ray, urine sample, etc. Gave me a shot of Depomedrol & put me on an antibiotic just-in-case, & 36 hours later I was feeling a lot better. Now - feeling fine. Then my other daughter got it & my wife had symptoms - both had it mild. In my wife, the cough has held-on. We may have very well had this, before all the hype.

Typically, if I get something like this, it's usually in the dead of winter - Dec, Jan. VERY unusual for me to get something like this this time of year. You guys should be fine - just like getting over the flu. Keep us posted!


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Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2752496
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
remdesrivir

We're all in this together. Interesting read about Remdesrivir <-click
I think back to when I was first dx with leukemia. I was fortunate to have a family friend with a home 2 blocks from UCSF where I was treated. On their bookshelf was a 1950's version of a Merck Medical Manual. I read about treatments for leukemia. There was none, considered uncurable with 3 month survivability, it recommended trying anything. It mentioned agents like alcohol, chlorine, ammonia, or similar agents.
People are dying, will continue to die, to shrug shoulders is not in my personality.

Re: Quarantined $100 Bills from Asia ? ? ? [Re: calmopar] #2752497
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Originally Posted by calmopar
Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
It seems like an extreme over-reaction is in play. Just how lethal is this to an otherwise healthy person? Is Tom Hanks dead yet?
It was such a good thing, seeing so many enjoying the fruits of this great economy. This media induced panic could destroy it.

Probably not lethal to an otherwise healthy person. The problem is those healthy people pass it on to people that have underlying medical conditions and the elderly. Consider this, the virus was first identified in one province in China in late November. In less than 4 months it has spread around the entire earth. So when you say things like that what you are really saying is, so what? It's OK that the sick and elderly die.


what I want to know is, what is the difference between this virus and every other flu and pneumonia virus that is continually circulating, killing tens of thousands of people in our country every year? Why is this the one that has to have the major panic and over-reaction? Why not any of the others?

Did Tom Hanks die?


Fair question. Here is a comparison from the former director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/heal...u-comparison-frieden-analysis/index.html


You are citing an opinion article by an organization that has zero credibility who is using dubious information from an individual who will profit from an overreaction and who also has a political agenda. This is exactly the sort of thing that some of us believe is designed to induce panic.

I'm looking for real facts and real answers about this please.

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