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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: rickraw]
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05/02/20 02:47 PM
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Adobedude
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I quit using the braided SS hose, I'd wrap it with electrical tape, cut it with a grinder, I still ended up bleeding to death, The black is a lot easier, but I never had luck with summit hose.
2001 Dodge Dakota
408 All Motor
11.27 @ 117.83 mph
2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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05/02/20 03:58 PM
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Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
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Summit stuff sucks. Putting their stuff together is like herding cats. And I've done a lot of braided hoses over the years. Just seems like the sizing is off on all of it. I have some here that the guy brought for me to use. We recreated the McAmis video, including the language, after I got stuck for the tenth time. Aeroquip goes together like butter in comparison.
3/4" wide packing tape with the strands in it is what you want to use.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: CMcAllister]
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05/02/20 04:05 PM
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Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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I have had similar problems with the Summit brand of their SS covered AN hoses, both Teflon and neopreme lined. I now use Fragola brand and love it   I use 3 or 4 inch wide duct tape and wrap the hose as tight as I can get it and then use a small 4 inch cut off wheel in my Harbor freight Chicago brand air dremel
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#2770491
05/02/20 04:27 PM
05/02/20 04:27 PM
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Wind Gap,Pa.
Sammy
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yes wrapping it with tape. the braided wants to push back of the line when you push the fitting on. Some fittings only work with certain hose Earls fittings only work with Earl's hose. That's probably your problem
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Sammy]
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05/02/20 06:08 PM
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On the parachute mount
n20mstr
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On the parachute mount
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i have used Jegs and Summit hose, both are inconsistent in sizing and quality. THE fittings seem to be good, the hose not so much.
After this whole Covid19 deal and what China has done to my racing this season, im about to never buy anything made in China again, no matter what the cost ! ! Is it worth it now?? with NO racing ? and not mention other things !
sorry for the rant
I use masking tape
and cut it with a hacksaw, works for me
Last edited by n20mstr; 05/02/20 06:11 PM.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: n20mstr]
#2770521
05/02/20 07:05 PM
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PA.
pittsburghracer
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Try the black hose and you will never go back to braided stainless
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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05/02/20 07:43 PM
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Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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What are you using as a assembly lube to get the hose to seat all the way on the fittings? I use the Fragola brand of their black #12 AN hose and fittings and could not get the hose to slide all the way up to the plastic cup (even using heat on the hose before and during the installation  ) on the end of the fittings 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#2770526
05/02/20 07:47 PM
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back in Georgia
dthemi
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https://www.harborfreight.com/28-inch-cable-cutters-6649.html?cid=paid_google|||6649&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInoKVmK2W6QIVx56zCh2z_AbqEAQYASABEgIPjvD_BwE This is the cheapest one I see, but there are nicer ones. Basically a large cable cutter Use this, and forget about tape, grinding, cutting, cleaning whatever. This will cut the hose clean as a lazer, and it has the added benefit of slightly reducing the end from the radial compression. making it easy to put the fittings on. literally, one second and the cleanest cut you can get. Even works on double braid. ![[Linked Image]](http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/dthemi/image_17918_zpstbagpv4t.jpg)
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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05/02/20 07:48 PM
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S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
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I wrap tightly with a couple layers of either 200mph duct tape or strapping tape (the yellow-ish translucent stuff
With fibers inside), and use a cut off wheel. For me the exact kind of tape I use makes a difference. I learned to Use
The strapping tape from aeroquip since they used to deliver their hose with that kind of tape on it where it had been cut.
I tried Fragola for -12 in this external pickup Deal I’ve been messing with, so far
I like the anodizing better than the aeroquip or jegs brands I worked with
Previously. It seems a little more durable.
Rich H.
Esse Quam Videri
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Sammy]
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05/02/20 08:34 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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yes wrapping it with tape. the braided wants to push back of the line when you push the fitting on. Some fittings only work with certain hose Earls fittings only work with Earl's hose. That's probably your problem Summit Hose Summit fittings.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: dthemi]
#2770541
05/02/20 08:34 PM
05/02/20 08:34 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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https://www.harborfreight.com/28-inch-cable-cutters-6649.html?cid=paid_google|||6649&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInoKVmK2W6QIVx56zCh2z_AbqEAQYASABEgIPjvD_BwE This is the cheapest one I see, but there are nicer ones. Basically a large cable cutter Use this, and forget about tape, grinding, cutting, cleaning whatever. This will cut the hose clean as a lazer, and it has the added benefit of slightly reducing the end from the radial compression. making it easy to put the fittings on. literally, one second and the cleanest cut you can get. Even works on double braid. Thanks have a HF not too far
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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05/02/20 08:38 PM
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West Coast, USA
jbc426
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I use the technique shown on the Earl's web site how-to videos. A block of brass, a big, sharp brick chisel and a 5 lbs maul and I get clean, crisp cuts every time. Watch and be amazed. I was. https://www.anplumbing.com/hose_cutting
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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05/02/20 09:06 PM
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pittsburghracer
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What are you using as a assembly lube to get the hose to seat all the way on the fittings? I use the Fragola brand of their black #12 AN hose and fittings and could not get the hose to slide all the way up to the plastic cup (even using heat on the hose before and during the installation ) on the end of the fittings The only lube I use is a little oil on the stud going inside the hose. Nothing fancy. I do mark my hose with a white paint stick on the outside so I know I have it bottomed out and the hose didn’t push out any. I love working with this stuff and I’m over 7 years tank to carb with alcohol use will h zero issues.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#2770556
05/02/20 09:18 PM
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Wind Gap,Pa.
Sammy
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yes wrapping it with tape. the braided wants to push back of the line when you push the fitting on. Some fittings only work with certain hose Earls fittings only work with Earl's hose. That's probably your problem Summit Hose Summit fittings. I've never had a problem with Summit hose ends but who's hose are you using? I hope it's not Earls. It won't work.
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So I'm installing my fuel system. -10 up -8 back. the -8 cuts and the fittings are easy. The -10 is being a PITA. The -10 is all Summit brand and is giving me fits. The -8 is a mixture of used fittings and another brand of hose, I can't recall. Is it that the Summit stuff sucks or what? I'm using an air cut off tool to cut the line. The Summit stuff seems to want to come apart even with a decent cut, plus the black "anodizing" is gone once you put a wrench on it...
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