Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: Sammy]
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05/02/20 09:33 PM
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yes wrapping it with tape. the braided wants to push back of the line when you push the fitting on. Some fittings only work with certain hose Earls fittings only work with Earl's hose. That's probably your problem Summit Hose Summit fittings. I've never had a problem with Summit hose ends but who's hose are you using? I hope it's not Earls. It won't work. hose and fittings are Summit ...made in USA too.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: don miller]
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05/02/20 09:37 PM
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All you guys that are having troubles installing the AN fittings do yourself a favor.....pry out your wallets, peel back that Mopar glue that's keeping it stuck closed and buy the Koul Tools install kit. You will save enough $$ on bandages to pay for the kit and you won't have worry about your kids learning new words not hurting myself.. the braided wants to push back on the line...bunches all up. I'm kicking myself because I was going to use all hard line. Thought this would be easier but 4X the cost.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: mopar dave]
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05/02/20 10:28 PM
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I wrap it with a couple turns of electrical tape tightly, use a thin cutoff wheel to cut it in the middle of the tape, blow off the debris, spray WD40 on the fitting and hose, then put it together.
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: dthemi]
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05/03/20 10:08 AM
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Dt Hemi : Basically a large cable cutter
Use this, and forget about tape, grinding, cutting, cleaning whatever. This will cut the hose clean as a lazer, and it has the added benefit of slightly reducing the end from the radial compression. making it easy to put the fittings on. literally, one second and the cleanest cut you can get. Even works on double braid.
I do this too. My cutters are greenlee cable cutters and this is all they are used for. It keeps the hose I.D. clean.
The aluminum vice jaws with cut outs also make it much easier to hold the fitting.
I like and use XRP or Fragola.
"Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: don miller]
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05/03/20 10:39 AM
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All you guys that are having troubles installing the AN fittings do yourself a favor.....pry out your wallets, peel back that Mopar glue that's keeping it stuck closed and buy the Koul Tools install kit. You will save enough $$ on bandages to pay for the kit and you won't have worry about your kids learning new words I am a big fan on the Koul Tool stuff as well. I don't think I have bled once since I got the Koul Tool kit. I also have a hose cutter from Summit (I think). The only problem I have with it is making a square cut but that is probably operator error. I have some of the push on Aeroquip stuff and I hate it. I have noticed that Koul Tool makes something that will push them on for you but its something like $275. If I was going to plumb or replumb an entire car I probably would look to getting a setup to use the permanent swedged on hose ends on black hose.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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05/03/20 10:44 AM
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Try the black hose and you will never go back to braided stainless My transmission and radiator hoses are the only braided stainless I have left. I love the cloth braided stuff, easy to work with and I like the look also.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: dthemi]
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05/03/20 10:45 AM
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https://www.harborfreight.com/28-inch-cable-cutters-6649.html?cid=paid_google|||6649&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInoKVmK2W6QIVx56zCh2z_AbqEAQYASABEgIPjvD_BwE This is the cheapest one I see, but there are nicer ones. Basically a large cable cutter Use this, and forget about tape, grinding, cutting, cleaning whatever. This will cut the hose clean as a lazer, and it has the added benefit of slightly reducing the end from the radial compression. making it easy to put the fittings on. literally, one second and the cleanest cut you can get. Even works on double braid. Agreed, I stopped the taping and cutting with cut off wheels yrs ago. No more frayed end and bleeding fingers
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: jb500]
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05/03/20 12:23 PM
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I guess when making 100's to 1,000's of hose assemblies I just used the quickest and most efficient tools to get the job done. An abrasive wheel chop saw or actual hose cutting machine was always at my disposal. Any pesky debris was simply blown out with shop air. No sledge hammers needed or ever used. I agree 100%.. I did hose and steel line cutting for 30+ years and never used a cutter as seen there.. I try not to buy a tool that has just one purpose unless its mandatory
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: dthemi]
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05/03/20 01:20 PM
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https://www.harborfreight.com/28-inch-cable-cutters-6649.html?cid=paid_google|||6649&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInoKVmK2W6QIVx56zCh2z_AbqEAQYASABEgIPjvD_BwE This is the cheapest one I see, but there are nicer ones. Basically a large cable cutter Use this, and forget about tape, grinding, cutting, cleaning whatever. This will cut the hose clean as a lazer, and it has the added benefit of slightly reducing the end from the radial compression. making it easy to put the fittings on. literally, one second and the cleanest cut you can get. Even works on double braid. well those didn't work for poop. Waste of $20 and 40 minutes of my life.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: jb500]
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05/03/20 01:58 PM
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I guess when making 100's to 1,000's of hose assemblies I just used the quickest and most efficient tools to get the job done. An abrasive wheel chop saw or actual hose cutting machine was always at my disposal. Any pesky debris was simply blown out with shop air. No sledge hammers needed or ever used. And for spending big $$ on a "Cool Tool" just look around the garage to find a similar fixture. Take a plastic funnel and cut off the snout at a point where the ID is a little smaller than the hose OD. Make a slit down the spine to allow it to open up. Put it over the hose and pull the hose back so that it is flush. Stick your ferrule/socket on the end or on the work bench and give the hose a firm jab (similar process as a piston ring compressor and install). This should allow you to be quick enough to get it in past the fitting.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: jb500]
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05/03/20 02:02 PM
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I guess when making 100's to 1,000's of hose assemblies I just used the quickest and most efficient tools to get the job done. An abrasive wheel chop saw or actual hose cutting machine was always at my disposal. Any pesky debris was simply blown out with shop air. No sledge hammers needed or ever used. And for spending big $$ on a "Cool Tool" just look around the garage to find a similar fixture. Take a plastic funnel and cut off the snout at a point where the ID is a little smaller than the hose OD. Make a slit down the spine to allow it to open up. Put it over the hose and pull the hose back so that it is flush. Stick your ferrule/socket on the end or on the work bench and give the hose a firm jab (similar process as a piston ring compressor and install). This should allow you to be quick enough to get it in past the fitting. thanks, this is a product problem I think. As mention all the -8 stuff works like butter the -10 Summit stuff is horrible.
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Re: cutting braided AN
[Re: dthemi]
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05/03/20 08:02 PM
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I've always used masking tape and a 3 x 1/16" cutoff wheel. I also have a squeeze bottle of "Russell's Hose Assembly Lube", a really black oil, don't know what's in it but a drop or two on the fitting threads (and the part that goes inside the hose) works great. Never had a problem mixing Summit, Fragola, Russell I did make the mistake of trying a Chinese copy from ebay once. Never again. Stripped before fully tight!
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