Why were we unprepared? Why is a majority of our country's leadership in constant flux, do we have the best people handling the pandemic response? How were the best people handling the country's response duped? I do not think there is some nefarious motive in place.

They better be learning them now. The Japanese haven't been an enemy since 1945. And their stuff was never as trashy as the Chicom junk. China has been at war with us for years and we're too stupid and ignorant to realize it.

Better mousetrap? NOTHING made in China is as good as what was being made in America even years ago. Look around at what giving it all to China has brought us.

Tell that to the governor of PA and the clown show at the Dept. of Health. What's the numbers? Depends on who you ask and what day it is. The chief coroner is filing lawsuits over their inept handling of this. They added a bunch one day, got called on it, took them off the list, moved some around to different locations. It's a complete dumpster fire. The governor shut everything down, no notice, no consultation with business leaders, community officials or legislators. Just full tilt dictator, do it or suffer the consequences.

50000 deaths, what they leave out is New York state and New Jersey are almost 23000 alone. Under 30000 in the rest of the country and we destroy the economy, businesses, investments, jobs, lives, go in debt or print funny money by the trillions. People throw the word "trillions" around like I do with "hundreds".

We went to war with Japan over 2500 killed and a couple of ships sunk. China never fired a shot and they kicked our a$$es, bad. It remains to be seen what is done to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Here's the hypocrisy in it. Think back Jan/Feb other events: Does he think he's the King? Can do anything HE wants? No way!!! No How!!.
"America" wouldn't have stood for such a "national" issuance of present day "implements". But NOW that the Sh1t has hit-the-fan, what do we hear? Where's the Fed? Why haven't the "critical" companies been nationalized to help? Where's El Presidente now that we're drowing?/

The illness is real. New York City - probably the largest, most densely populated city in the country and never shut mass transit down - had a problem. Lock it down along with New Jersey, Connecticut, eastern PA, no argument from me.

But where I live, I think 2 people were confirmed and I'm not sure anyone even went to the hospital. But everything is still shut down. People out of work, businesses closed that may never reopen. Little pizza shops, restaurants, family owned places that people had their whole lives invested in. One person did that, the Governor, with no advice or input from anyone but the inept, unqualified clown running the health department. A health department that's playing "hide the bologna" with the numbers and even state legislators can't get a straight answer from them. Now we know why you hire the best qualified people instead of the PC choice.

The response for the majority of the country was way overboard and based on computer models that were so far off, it was criminal. What are they going to do? Tell us "sorry about that. Better safe than sorry"? Well great, but this is a little more serious than a weather report they don't get quite right.

What about the pork, poultry and dairy industries? 100s of thousands of pigs killed and buried rather than going to market. Who knows what food prices will look like 6 months from now. WalMart won't be put out of business. But what about the little diner or the take out place I used to go to? They've been shutdown for 2 months. What about the local family run beef or dairy farm?

Ultimately, this falls square in the lap of the Chinese. But there sure are a lot of people here putting the "never let a crisis go to waste" advice into action in ways I didn't think I'd ever see in this country. I think some people have even commented how easy it was to get everyone to submit and comply. Don't think that's not being noted for future reference,

Excellent Reasoning Here! More people should read this AND conclude (or rationalize) that this "Yellow-Brick-Road" we're on MAY NOT lead all of us to OZ.

New CDC info.

Notice that the flu was killing far more people than the virus until the end of March and that the flu is still killing more people than the virus in some areas. And it is also important to note that the criteria to define a death as 'Covid related' is very broad.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020...g-the-death-rate-for-covid-19-heres-why/

A big part of the reason for the virus' rapid spread is because most of those infected (60% to 80%) show little to no symptoms. Compare that to the flu. And the mortality rate is not level across all ethnicities. But if you are a white middle aged person with no underlying health issues, the mortality rate is well below 1%. Just how far below may never be known because of inadequate testing and selection bias.

I am really confused, there are currently 56,000+ dead in in the US alone 6 weeks, and we are debating the fatality percentages in single digits?

I fail to see how this matters, I thought most thought EVERY SINGLE life was important, and mattered, not percentages? Why is it important, other then reducing the death toll to zero?